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lrmaniac



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electric windows switch
Hi

Did a search for this but couldn't find the answer ... if there is any Very Happy ...

In our Defenders - or at least on mine !- the window switch has to be pressed all time untill the window is up ... it only has one position. Can we make a modification to it, so that if we press the window switch for more than 1 1/2 second the window goes up alone (like my wife's Astra and almost every cars sold these days)? And if we press for a shorter period the window only goes up that little bit ... ?

And if so, is it a simple thing to do ? Very Happy

Thanks Regards
Joao

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nicks



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My classic range rover had this, probably wouldn't be to har to retro fit
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Zinke



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Im pretty sure the electric windows work through a ECU on most cars but the defender (well TD5 at least, pretty sure Puma ones too) is just a switch connected direct to the window motors. Would think the easiest thing would be to wire a window ECU from a RRC or Disco into the circuit.

Pete.
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double cab happy



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come on guys, i haven't got a clue how to do this but i like the idea so all i need is someone to do it, take some pictures and write a parts list, with maybe a link to the cheapest place to get them from, be at the end of the phone when i mess up then come around and for the price of a beer do it for me,

thats all Wink
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lrmaniac



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Zinke wrote:
Would think the easiest thing would be to wire a window ECU from a RRC or Disco into the circuit. Pete.


I too don't have a clue on what you're saying ! Whistle But as double cab happy said a pic or a part number and a more exhaustive explanation would be welcome !! Thumbs Up
And we can arrange to have a beer if I go there on hollidays or if you came here in the summer! Regards
Joao

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joking aside, if anyone would happen to know of a cheap ecu and wiring diagram i think most of use could give it a try. and cool points to the first person to come up with the know how (fingers crossd someone will)
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Zinke



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Think you will have to fit all the wiring from a Range Rover Classic between the power supply, switches and window motor.

Personally i can keep my finger on the switch for a few seconds and dont want to change the wiring on my Defender but if anybody wants it doing then im sure i can do it for them.
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Eduardo



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Humm

I remember that Ive seen some chinese systems of power windows (that are using to convert manual windows in electric ones) that have this "one touch" close and open window function.
Im not sure if one of then can be installed inside the door.

Found this one in internerd

http://www.duettomotors.com/general/gen_power.htm


Cheers Eduardo

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Post #32960 25th May 2010 11:10pm
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mse



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Zinke wrote:
Im pretty sure the electric windows work through a ECU on most cars but the defender (well TD5 at least, pretty sure Puma ones too) is just a switch connected direct to the window motors. Would think the easiest thing would be to wire a window ECU from a RRC or Disco into the circuit.

Pete.


You are correct - there is an ecu that controls the auto up and auto down functions.

im not sure about down, but it might also need a switch to say "im down" for the ECU - if you find an auto up (not a RRC or Disco 1/2 option) you also need a "im at the top" switch that basically senses pressure Mike
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don't forget that auto up windows have the anti trap sensor fitted, so I don't know if the window would go down as soon as its fully closed without this on the fender

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dgardel



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Just bought THIS ONE
with current control for safety rules......
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nicks



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dgardel wrote:
Just bought THIS ONE
with current control for safety rules......
Thumbs Up


looks a good unit, you must let us know how you get on.
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Here installation instructions: http://files.me.com/daniele.gardellin/nnoktb

Here mod for heavy windows (from DEI Builder): http://files.me.com/daniele.gardellin/gqa7ve Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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nicks wrote:
dgardel wrote:
Just bought THIS ONE
with current control for safety rules......
Thumbs Up


looks a good unit, you must let us know how you get on.

Mr. Green when its will arrive I'll let you (all forum) know Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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lrmaniac



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dgardel wrote:
nicks wrote:
dgardel wrote:
Just bought THIS ONE
with current control for safety rules......
Thumbs Up


looks a good unit, you must let us know how you get on.

Mr. Green when its will arrive I'll let you (all forum) know Thumbs Up Thumbs Up


Ahh...the man we're all waiting to hear from ! Mr. Green

Very nice kit ! Thumbs Up
When you fit it let us know your feedback ... I'll buy one too, just have too see if I'm capable of fitting it or will have to take it to someone who knows how. The Mrs. will be very happy to know that there's a solution for "her" problem!! Bow down Regards
Joao

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