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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857   
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No, it should be fine. It would fail if a cat had been removed, but not the EGR.
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13th Mar 2015 12:21am |
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| amondeggs Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Telford Posts: 452 
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I had jo problems with mine,
My car is a 1999 but I recently replaced the engine with a later 15 p engine like yours. Before I fitted it I removed the whole egr system and there was no issue with the mot  |
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13th Mar 2015 12:23am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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Just goes to show how mot testers can be good or bad! I've just had mine go through last week with a de-cat....they never even noticed! I didnt get the time to put the old one back on  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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13th Mar 2015 8:12am |
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| Rogeo1983 Member Since: 19 Nov 2015 Location: Horsham Posts: 30 
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Hi folks,
I am new to td5 or even Land Rover diesels, my last restoration was a V8 3.9. What are the pros and cons of removing the egr valve? Sorry if it is a stupid question!, |
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9th Jul 2016 9:54pm |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 898  
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Basically the motor breaths much better with restriction of air into the motor. The EGR is a massive space occupying lesion, I notced immediate differences in acceleration and driveability. Also less crap to go wrong. The EGR can throw codes and gets you chasing unecessary repairs.
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10th Jul 2016 3:31pm |
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| taffrican Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Living room Posts: 622  
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Earlier TD5's weren't fitted with a cat Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty.. Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be! Last edited by taffrican on 29th Jul 2016 5:48pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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29th Jul 2016 12:16am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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Likewise. I fitted a decat pipe to my Puma as a temporary measure after the flange broke off the top of the original downpipe, intending it to stay put only whilst I repaired the cat pipe, but three years or so later it is still fitted. The MOT man either hasn't noticed or doesn't care for the last three MOTs, and the vehicle runs and drives noticeably better without the cat. The underbonnet temperatures are greatly reduced, and the driver's footwell no longer radiates heat into the cabin. All in all a massive improvement, except, presumably, the in emissions department.
I admire the courage, but I am not sure I'd have done this! Me: "Excuse me, Mr MOT man, if I bring an unroadworthy vehicle for an MOT will you fail it?" MOT Man: "I should, but I won't because I have one too!" With my luck that's not how it would go if I tried that one.  |
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29th Jul 2016 10:14am |
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| JR Member Since: 07 Dec 2012 Location: Auchtermuchty Posts: 532  
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I'm also in Fife, Tank, and my posher motor is a D2 with:
no egr no cat no centre box big intercooler equally fancy radiator (not important but looks gorgeous too) Alive tune (apparently) All this was done before I bought the car. I have now had 2 MOTs through Burnside Autocentre, Auchtermuchty (we've used them in their various guises for 50-60 years) with absolutely no problems. My tweaked 200Tdi Defender always passes too. Hope this helps. |
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29th Jul 2016 12:43pm |
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| taffrican Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Living room Posts: 622
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Fortunately he's a freind of mine and I often run mods by him and he's a good source for tech knowledge too Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty.. Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be! |
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29th Jul 2016 2:03pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Finding an MOT tester that perhaps 'turns a blind eye' or passes something he shouldn't is a very rare commodity these days. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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29th Jul 2016 5:27pm |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652 
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mine flew through the mot. No cat and no egr. The emissions were really low and so much so he commented on how clean it was and said he'd had low catorgry tax veichles put out more.
I d9 service it very regularly and it had just been done if it makes anydifference 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car) 2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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29th Jul 2016 10:19pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857
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^^^ Did you point out to him that the emissions test is supposed to be done with the engine running?
Seriously that is a good result, well done! |
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30th Jul 2016 9:57pm |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652
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nah. He went on to say some of the low tax cars he sees are bad on the emissions as they don't all get serviced.
Stuff like dirty air filters and engines that never get warm screw up their results 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car) 2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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31st Jul 2016 12:04am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1758 
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Mine was motd the other week.
No cat, no egr, no centre box. Flew through the smoke test. According to the readout it was way way below the pass limit. |
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31st Jul 2016 12:19am |
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