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How many people have had gearbox problems?
Problem shifting from 1st to 2nd
73%
 73%  [14]
The gearbox changed by the 2nd generation type (why)
15%
 15%  [3]
Blown the gearbox
10%
 10%  [2]
Total Votes: 19

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willy eckerslike



Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
I suppose first is like a lot of things on a commercial based vehicle i.e. a compromise, Ist gear only makes sense when you try to set off on an incline with a heavy trailer on the back. The 90's not so bad cos we can set off in second, but as you said Glynn the 110 is not quite as light and struggles a bit. Thumbs Up Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #29040 5th Apr 2010 3:47pm
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lrdxb110



Member Since: 09 Jul 2009
Location: Dubai
Posts: 224

United Arab Emirates 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
Paul55 wrote:
No problems with mine yet Bow down then again I've never used first gear as of yet Embarassed


So you drive of from 2nd gear or you got a auto conversion? Whistle '08 LR Defender 110
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Post #29041 5th Apr 2010 3:53pm
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BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Willie wrote:
My 2007 which has 12K miles on the clock and has a notchy gear change between 1st and 2nd and 2nd and 3rd. Its almost as if the clutch is not fully depressed during the gear change. The dealer says this is "normal" but I'm not so sure. Would this qualify for a gearbox/selector change? I am getting concerned as I only have 6 months warranty left.

Advice on how to proceed would be much appreciated,

Willie


Mine is the same now you mention it (13100 miles). I just put it down to Defender quirkiness/agricultural-ness & my changing up when the revs are too low. 2nd gear needs to be a bit longer as well...... Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #29065 5th Apr 2010 9:22pm
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big steve



Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
Location: hertfordshire
Posts: 2456

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
how is it that if loads of people are having problems they havnt rectified it im struggling on warranty work because my truck is so heavly modified acording to the service manager but if people are getting problems with pretty basic truck why wont they just recall them all ? 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
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Post #29087 5th Apr 2010 10:57pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2471

Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Next trip to the stealer IŽll complain about the 2nd synchro and reject the typical.....answer. My warranty ends this year and I can not afford a new GB. No one would repair it anyway. These worries make me wonder of a j@@p Embarassed Puma 110" SW

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Post #29094 5th Apr 2010 11:15pm
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3709

United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Alex pray tell why you are asking this question. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #29110 6th Apr 2010 8:54am
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Alex e



Member Since: 23 Apr 2007
Location: Home isn't it
Posts: 204

England 2006 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Zambezi Silver
Post #29111 6th Apr 2010 9:02am
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gtveloce65



Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 107

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Epsom Green
I've had problems with 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd and a new gearbox at around 12k miles as a result (about 6 months ago) - I also had a lot of noise from the box in neutral with the clutch out.

New box definitely improved things, but still feels a bit like I haven't fully de-clutched sometimes going from 1st to 2nd 1953 80
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2008 110xs
Post #29142 6th Apr 2010 4:49pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2471

Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
so far 2 new gearboxes Puma 110" SW

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Post #29143 6th Apr 2010 4:52pm
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Bosun



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Not sure about everyone else, but I'm getting really, really, really p****d-off with the dealers, and Land Rover telling me that poor quality is "normal". I've had a new gearbox, 2 new clutches, a new transfer box and two new rear half shafts, and still the transmission sounds like it's 15 years old. It was poor from the forecourt, and hasn't changed with all the work over the last two years!!!

Sorry, don't want to loose the thread, ,but the 1st to 2nd shift on mine is awfull. I can get a nice smooth shift if I do it slowly and methodically, but on a hill or with a heavy trailer, the 90 has almost come to a halt.
Post #29187 7th Apr 2010 9:29am
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Paul55



Member Since: 03 Feb 2009
Location: Somewhere in my head!
Posts: 514

England 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
lrdxb110 wrote:
Paul55 wrote:
No problems with mine yet Bow down then again I've never used first gear as of yet Embarassed


So you drive of from 2nd gear or you got a auto conversion? Whistle


lrdxb110, always set off in 2nd gear for all I know I may not even have a 1st gear Rolling with laughter Cogito ergo sum
Post #29189 7th Apr 2010 9:40am
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Bosun



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Tried that, but 2nd gear is too high with a heavy trailer. Plus, I hate the smell of burning clutch plate. However, it still doesn't make a poor gearbox good.
Post #29219 7th Apr 2010 6:46pm
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Forest of Dean 90



Member Since: 29 Apr 2009
Location: Forest of Dean
Posts: 68

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
LR have agreed to replace my gearbox (32'000 miles) but they are on back order so they have No Idea when they will be available, the Stealers say it could be a matter of days or could run into Weeks. Sad

But at least they are sorting it !!
Post #29431 10th Apr 2010 11:17am
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Bosun



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Good luck, I hope it's the answer for your Defender. A new gearbox didn't work for me, it was exactly the same, and now getting worse. The technician told me, they aren't allowed by LR to fit NEW gearboxes, they have to be reconditioned. Whether thats by the dealer or a gearbox specialist I'm not sure. Heaven help us if it's the dealer!!!
Post #29437 10th Apr 2010 1:53pm
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Forest of Dean 90



Member Since: 29 Apr 2009
Location: Forest of Dean
Posts: 68

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Well if doesnt work its off to Trading Standards (as not fit for Purpose)

As for a Recon thats a joke, cant they just addmit the Box is of poor design and not suited for the Defender. After all (You cant Pollish a Turd only spinkle glitter on it)
Post #29451 10th Apr 2010 5:14pm
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