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ttuck3r



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Scotland 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Overheated 1999 TD5
Ok, once again I come to the knowledge fountain on yet another TD5 head scratch, this afternoon I had driven out about 30mile on a country road when out the blue my heat gauge shoots to red, I kill the engine whilst stopping, once stopped I opened the bonnet to see the expansion bottle bubbling and about 1.5L of coolant has been discharged over the engine so I'm stopped for all of 15min before I start her back up drive 5 or so miles to dunkeld where I bought 2L water filled her up and drove home full chat no problem. Confused to say the leased!
I've recently replaced my thermostat as I've had heating issues in the cab, could my water pump be dying!
Thanks in advance.
Post #394585 31st Jan 2015 9:54pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
The reaction off your gauge is normal. It will never go slowly up. it sits at normal temperature and jumps to full in the red when hot. (At least mine does that too when trying to get out deep mud after a while) Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #394595 31st Jan 2015 10:09pm
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Phatcat



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Java Black
Let's hope it's nothing serious like the head or gasket .

My thought could be an air lock as you've just changed the thermostat ?

Good luck.
Post #394630 31st Jan 2015 11:35pm
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ttuck3r



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Scotland 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
O well today it happened all again except this time it blew the expansion bottle lid off and dumped water out the bottle and some around the thermostat area maybe the radiator not to sure yet.. still hoping its water pump..
Post #394980 1st Feb 2015 10:33pm
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
Make sure you get all the air out the system. A td5 is not the easiest engine for that. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #395048 2nd Feb 2015 9:24am
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Sounds like head gasket or warped head.

My old 90 did this... only when i "booted it" and got the engine hot.
Post #395061 2nd Feb 2015 10:21am
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yobbie



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green
Sounds like head gasket or head I had the same problem just over a year ago, fitted a new Spanish head
Post #395086 2nd Feb 2015 11:54am
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achuakh



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Singapore 2002 Defender 90 Td5 SW Oslo Blue
sounds like the water pump has disintegrated.

Try that first, before going down the route of the head. From the land of the most expensive land rover defenders on planet earth. At �125k for a XS 110 csw and you get to own it only for 10yrs! Please find me a good reason to stay on this island.
Post #395168 2nd Feb 2015 5:27pm
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ttuck3r



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Scotland 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Thanks for the replies lads, tomorrow I'm pulling the water pump off and fitting a new one, let's cross fingers.
Post #395259 2nd Feb 2015 9:47pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
I had similar issues with a V8 I owned years ago water pump had no play in it but when I pulled it off the impeller had come off the shaft ! Being hard up at the time I welded it back on instead of buying a new pump.

Hope it turns out to be a cheap fix for you Thumbs Up 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #395263 2nd Feb 2015 9:53pm
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ttuck3r



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Scotland 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Water pump was not the issue, took off the old one and it's in better condition then the new one, I have now taken it down to the mechanics and tested for everything with no apparent issues, the mechanic seems to think it could be a faulty expansion bottle cap so a new one is on order.
Seriously Confused!!!
Post #395906 4th Feb 2015 9:50pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
As your car is at your mechanics see if he can do a sniffer test to check for combustion gasses in the cooling system. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #395909 4th Feb 2015 9:56pm
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ian series 1



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
I carried out sniffer test on my old td5 and showed no sign of contamination, symptoms as above.
Ended up pulling the head off, and the plastic locating dowels had sheared off causing the head to move,
same problem on early freelanders, also on early td5s mine was 52plate

If you do end up doing the head gasket, get the metal dowels Thumbs Up 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.
Post #395912 4th Feb 2015 10:06pm
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ttuck3r



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Scotland 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
I give up, I've now had my Landy at 2 different shops, with me telling them to check the head and to give me a price to do the head gasket, and both of them laughing me out the door with there diagnoses of the problem. Might have to attempt this myself.
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Iain_S



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Scotland 2000 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Mine was like this for months, just temp gauge going into the red and sometimes blowing out coolant. Temp gauge went back to normal if I eased off a bit. It finally got worse, so tha I had to top up coolant every 50 miles or so.

I finally changed the head gasket. The old one had delaminated along the exhaust manifold side. Only explanation I can think of was that the head bolts had lost some elasticity, and had stretched. They were certainly VERY easy to undo, in contrast to the sweat that went into getting the last 45 degrees on the new ones!
Post #396403 6th Feb 2015 2:13pm
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