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Gasket



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can you ID these odd parts?
After having my chassis galvanised (so the body had been lifted off), I've just noticed these two little parts tucked neatly into the cupholder - I suspect the garage has left them off.

Any idea what they could be?

My first thought were buttons for seatbox tabs like on an old series 3... of buttons to hold on the handbrake gaitor, but I'm completely stumped.


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Post #946857 24th Mar 2022 10:32am
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rustandoil



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Thaey look a bit like the ball end that a gas strut might attach to
Post #946859 24th Mar 2022 10:47am
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Linds Hanson



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Usually fit next to the rear folding seat lower seat belt anchorage on the wheel boxes. Its there to stop the seat belt turning too far and also screws into the seatbelt to chassis bracket under the body.
Post #946860 24th Mar 2022 11:23am
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I’m curious to whether you mean a new galv chassis or had your original chassis galvanised? 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS.
Post #946861 24th Mar 2022 11:24am
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Bluest



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Linds Hanson wrote:
Usually fit next to the rear folding seat lower seat belt anchorage on the wheel boxes. Its there to stop the seat belt turning too far and also screws into the seatbelt to chassis bracket under the body.


I agree, this is what they are. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #946862 24th Mar 2022 11:24am
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Gasket



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Bluest/Linds - thank you very much. Could I be really cheeky and ask if either if you could post a pic so I know where to refit them?

Brickbox - I had mine galvanised. Had it acid dipped by one company, galvanised by a second, resprayed and refitted.
Post #946863 24th Mar 2022 11:34am
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
That’s brilliant to hear that you’ve managed to have the original galvanised - it seems a bit of a touchy area.

Would you mind giving a ball park cost of having your own chassis galvanised, please? Something I’d look into over changing it completely. 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS.
Post #946869 24th Mar 2022 11:52am
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Gasket



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its not touchy, its pretty straightforward providing the chassis is in good condition. There are plenty of people on forums that say its tricky, but they're usually the people who have never done it themselves and repeat pub-knowledge they've heard about galvanising. I've had quite a lot of galvanising, blasting and dipping done on past restorations and its not that complex. In this case, I didn't have the workshop space available, so I outsourced it.

The reality is that unless your chassis is near-perfect then its probably not worth doing - if you're having to do repairs, then there'll likely be other thin spots and mig-welded repairs do tend to introduce stresses that can cause odd behaviour when dipped.

However if its still in good condition then it'll fly through. There's plenty of natural vents in the chassis, so mine didn't need to be drilled or anything either, which is nice.

Excluding removal/refitting the costs aren't very high:

Acid dipping (Ribble Technologies) - about £350 along with a few other bits
Galvanising (Wedge group) - another couple of hundred quid
Fettling the zinc/tapping threads - another day or so's work
Respray by a bodyshop in 2K black - say another £400

One thing to bear in mind is that if you're paying to have it done, then the labour costs will be substantially higher than a simple chassis swap as its more of a hassle, takes much longer and takes up much more space in the workshop (including tying up a ramp with the body airborne while the chassis is away).

Example 1: Galv and paint your own chassis = from above is approx £1250
Example 2: Buy and paint a Galv chassis = £2150 + £400 = £2550. LESS the resale value of a Puma chassis in good nick (approx £1200) = approx £1350

So financially, it doesn't really make much sense unless you desparately want to keep the factory chassis, like I did. For me, I wanted to keep my 90 nice and original and the chassis was spot on so it was worth it. But if I had bought a brand new chassis and sold off the old one (with the ID removed) then it would probably cost the same and would be a lot less hassle.
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piechipsandpeas



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Hi Gasket
The photo below shows where they go, as Linds Hanson described.


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Andy
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Gasket



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wonderful, thank you! Just had a look and my 90 has a shiny pair of grade 8.8 hex bolts where the balls should be - guess the garage misplaced them and just used normal bolts instead.
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Thank you for the lengthy reply! Much appreciated!

It’s always good to hear opinions from those that have undertaken the task. 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS.
Post #946877 24th Mar 2022 2:31pm
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