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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Replacing rear capping
I have a replacement rear capping to replace the rusting one. (the one where the rear panel and side panel meet)
As the orginal is riveted in place, Is it just a case of drill out the rivets, remove the old capping and then replace with a painted one?
Are there certain rivets I need to replace the old ones with?
Or would another option be to replace the rivets with Stainless ones and leave as stainless? (but do the same to the other side as well?) 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #256800 6th Aug 2013 7:55pm
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Litch



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Normal alloy rivets are fine, they are some of the few items that don't seem to suffer with corrosion.

Make sure you paint / treat all surfaces of the new capping before fitting.
From the factory the capping is very poorly protected which is why it rusts, the underside is given just a quick blow-over before being fitted to the tub when the top-coat is applied.
12-Years ago I removed all my new capping and had it painted all over and then Waxoyled on the underside, a couple of years ago I removed it to have it galvanised and it was still like new. ONE LIFE, GET IT!
Post #256819 6th Aug 2013 8:18pm
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GUM97



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Mine wasn't painted on the underside at all Rolling Eyes
Basically, a case of drill out and replace rivets, and then paint and seal thoroughly! It does mean side panels and roof off though Confused Mainly because to get a drill in to drill the rivets out, you need plenty of access! Luckily I did mine when all of the panels were off! An engine to TDi for!
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camelman



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Out of interest, I waslooking at doing the same job but ran the grinder over the capping with a sanding disc on and is almost as good as new (and I haven't had too lift the roof!) 
Post #256840 6th Aug 2013 9:06pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Sorry my bad, I meant the vertical capping that goes from the xmember upto the capping below the window capping.Is this still roof off? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #256841 6th Aug 2013 9:08pm
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GUM97



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Ah, my bad Embarassed IIRC no it's not, as it fits under the tub capping (the horizontal one that the sides sit on). Rivets drilled out, and then should pull downwards from under the tub capping and out Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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Post #256853 6th Aug 2013 9:24pm
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excossack



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Phew.......I did ponder using stainless dome head bolts and nylocs... But maybe some rivets will be easier.

Now. any idea of the size/length needed? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #256860 6th Aug 2013 9:37pm
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GUM97



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Not 100% sure of rivet size, I'd go and check the sizes for you that I used, but I'm on holiday Embarassed Sorry! If you haven't got an answer when I get back ill let you know Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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Post #256917 7th Aug 2013 8:19am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I'm sure I can find out what the are. Enjoy your holiday. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #256937 7th Aug 2013 10:22am
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blackwolf



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My 07 DC has galvanised cappings (painted body colour) and was clearly built linke that from new, although the tailgate capping is un-galvanised painted body colour.

I have a suspicion that vehicles that leave the factory with tilts have galvanised painted cappings, and those which leave with hardtops have cappings which are only painted, but this is only a suspicion.

Has anyone else (with a TC or DC) found that their cappings are galvanised?
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LandRoverAnorak



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The rivets that you want are blind rivets - so they don't let water in. These are the sort of thing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-rover-defen...35bb6300ac Darren

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Post #257366 8th Aug 2013 9:53pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Blind rivets thats the one! cheers. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #257432 9th Aug 2013 8:54am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Finally got around to replacing the rear capping on the 110 and while I was at it, I cleaned up the chequer plate on the rear and replaced the bolts with stainless hex heads.

Let the pictures speak for themselves.

Old capping

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Old chequer plate & old bolts

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What lies beneath

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Off with the old

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Started the cleaning of the chequer plate

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Cleaned up (2nd time around. First time I thought it was cleaned and prepared enough, only to find when I applied the etch primer I could see bits of previous coating that had curled up a little so started again)

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Capping on and ready for rivets

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Chequer plate primed and almost ready

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Attached and ready for lights

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Chequer plate on with new stainless hex bolts

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Now I need to repaint the rear 1/4 panel, replace the decal as the old one has worn away. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #264696 8th Sep 2013 9:39pm
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WarPig



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Looks great Thumbs Up

Did you have to pre spray the rivets before fitting them?
Post #264725 8th Sep 2013 10:43pm
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Lou Sparts



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Nice job with good pics Thumbs Up Looks so much better. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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