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Supacat



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mobilecentre wrote:
The whole wire has not been deleted just the two way connector that goes "nowhere" has been removed from the loom the cable still continues from Fuse 2 under the seat through to the rear loom and terminates in the towing electrics connector in the rear wheel arch.


OK we are talking MY13 now (not earlier models) - I thought the rear loom for the towing electrics was a separate stand alone loom that has to be purchased as an accessory and is usually routed directly from the socket to the front passenger's underseat box?

I have towing electics fitted and no multiplug behind the rear speaker covers.
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The additional towing electrics loom connects, in general terms, in two different places depending on type. The 12N loom, i.e. standard 7 pin lights only, connects to a multiplug under the rear OS wheel arch directly under the speaker cover. The 12S loom for the 7 pin caravan supplementary socket runs forward to the under seat battery box. The 13 pin loom, which combines both of the '12' types, connects in both places.

The multiplug behind the speaker cover is a spur from the vehicle-side towing electrics loom and exists, or existed, on all vehicles regardless of whether towing sockets were fitted. It appears to have been deleted from MY13 though. Darren

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Martin 01



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Checked it all out with multi meter & no power at black & purple plug.
All fuses seem to be fine.
Can't see any in line fuses, may have to investigate further.
I can't believe it's just not a fuse in the box.
Got me baffled.
Any suggestions ?


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This supply is permanent live so it's not a complicated circuit. If the fuse is ok then there's a fault somewhere and the only solution is methodically checking. Is power getting to the fuse, for example? Darren

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Darren,
Yes power to the fuse as the towing electrics are working.
Unless its a different fuse, but all fuses are ok.

Martin
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DiscoStu - not for a MY13 - at least not for mine. I only have a connection for the rear lights:

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As I said earlier, the spur from the vehicle-side towing electrics loom has been deleted from MY13. However, as Tim said, the towing electrics loom itself is still in place in the wheel arch directly below the area shown in your first picture, so it can be picked up from there without too much trouble. It's no longer plug-n-play, though. Darren

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Martin 01



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All sorted now guys.
Thanks for all the info.
Got auto electrician to take a look & he sussed it.
At some time someone has wired in a separate switch & relay which is where the problem was.
Now connected back to original wires & all is working.
Now means cool beers in the fridge in the back.

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Supacat wrote:
DiscoStu wrote:
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DiscoStu - not for a MY13 - at least not for mine.


Cheers, noticed that Thumbs Up

For MY13 (110 XS SW)

Rear of rear wheel arch, drivers side. There's a black plastic cover over the wiring


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Cover removed,


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Loose plug with purple wire is hanging behind the cover,


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yesterday I installed a 12v socket inside the glovebox and connected to the 12v socket on the dash centre, nice out of the way place to charge stuff or run the satnav without having cables near the gearstick.
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DiscoStu wrote:
Cheers, noticed that Thumbs Up

For MY13 (110 XS SW)

Loose plug with purple wire is hanging behind the cover,


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That's the multiplug connector for the towing electrics. They all have one of those. Darren

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Yes, but on a MY13 that's where you need to go back to to get the purple 12v feed. My Disco 'best bits'

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Sorry, I've misunderstood what you were trying to say. Darren

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Thumbs Up No worries My Disco 'best bits'

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mobilecentre wrote:



Purple wire can be seen on right hand side of plug


This is a MY2012 vehicle
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