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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044   
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I have the Entreq ones from Brendan at 4x4 overlander, a sponsor on here - excellent advice and service as always from them.
Seems there are several other options on the market of various qualities and prices, and some new suppliers coming along as well, so plenty of choice to suit your budget and tastes. The odd thing that was already mentioned is 'why didn't land rover make em a bit longer'? Maybe they have "always been that way sir". The point about the doors fouling the bodywork when fully opened is a valid concern, had a good look at mine when I fitted them and they seem to leave a 3-4mm gap even when 'fully' pushed open, so look like they will be ok. I have seen another where there are lateral adjustment holes, so they would need carefully fitting/adjustment and keep an eye on bolt tightness. That maybe why LR decided on the standard length so there was plenty of 'tolerance' and would avoid tit fouling bodywork irrespective of subsequent 'adjustments' made by owners. Good upgrade though whoever you you get them from. DJ 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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27th Nov 2012 7:10pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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It's only a slight crease and I don't think the paint will lift. It's a tribute to LR quality that it happened on one side and not the other, as the doors are set differently
Before you panic, go and see how yours fit. There are several versions of these brackets and the Entreq ones (knowing how intelligently those guys design) might not open quite as far as some others  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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27th Nov 2012 7:13pm |
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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044
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My Entreq ones don't go 'fully' to 90 degrees on standard opening, although you can push them a bit further, but still clears the bodywork so I wouldn't worry, just check it to put your mind at rest. DJ 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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27th Nov 2012 7:15pm |
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| ti-fat-man Member Since: 08 Feb 2009 Location: Bedford Posts: 517  
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Yeap I can second that...even pushing the door, the strap locks out before the door edge meets the pillar, about 3/4 mm clearance.
also mentioned before, I've lost a really annoying clucking noise from the original fitting, now the doors close butterey smooth... |
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27th Nov 2012 7:25pm |
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| AlpenAndes Member Since: 20 May 2011 Location: Currently Chile Posts: 128  
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Why does it loos e the clucking noise? Thought that was another little piece from Entreq they sold already earlier to loose the cluck?
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27th Nov 2012 7:44pm |
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| speedymarktd6 Member Since: 02 May 2011 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 102 
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Where did you get your bracketry for the lock on your back door ?
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27th Nov 2012 7:46pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Like I said, the door on one side has 3/4 mm clearance but only a couple of mm on the "bad'n". You can see the difference when they're closed too. Tried to adjust it but something's seriously off-kilter. Wind took the door and whipped it open harder than just pushing and "ouch". Probably my door is just crap - now the pillar matches it 
As dj says - it's worth a quick check. Our Defenders are a bit variable Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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27th Nov 2012 7:56pm |
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| ti-fat-man Member Since: 08 Feb 2009 Location: Bedford Posts: 517
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that was a Foley purchase. that must have taken me a good day to fit, i sure checked the measurements a fair few times before committing the drill... 
just researching a decent weatherproof padlock now... |
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27th Nov 2012 7:58pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Those of you new to the 110 / 90 / Defender scene - checkout the number of old examples with creases in the A and sometimes B posts and corresponding folds in the leading edges of the corresponding doors. Even with standard check straps it only takes a gust of wind to cause the door to strike the posts. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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27th Nov 2012 8:53pm |
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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044
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I think it's something to do with they fact that the bolt has a turned smooth bearing section that the arm fits over ( after you have drilled out the stay arm to 10mm) the original doesn't have that and entreq do a bearing to retro fit to the original to cure that. The allroad ones appear to just be a bolt welded in so I guess the noise stays, don't know about the others. It's nice to get an added benefit to a simple door stay as well as the extra opening gap. That maybe why they are a bit more money? Easily copied though I guess. Dj 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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27th Nov 2012 9:47pm |
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| AlpenAndes Member Since: 20 May 2011 Location: Currently Chile Posts: 128
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Thanks DJ.
I missed apparently in the entreq manual that the bearing thing comes with the new door stay as a pack (although my German in naturally better than my English). Then the question to the cheaper door stay mod fraction, do you still have the typical noise closing your doors? BR Oskar |
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27th Nov 2012 11:05pm |
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| tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436  
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jumps to mind when looking at the padlock,...
put a piece of bicycle inner tube over the body of the lock or you'll erode through your paint quickly. Shame they didn't make the brackets a bit bigger so the lock cant reach the bodywork. 2cents  |
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28th Nov 2012 5:20pm |
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