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T7mbo

Member Since: 02 Aug 2012
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 45

rover wrote:
I too have driven land rovers for some time, series, 101 3.5v8, 2.5 diesel, 300tdi, td5 and now a 2.2tdci. I think its pretty good, yes I would still like a 3.2tdci but I would not go back to any of the other Land Rover engines.

Thank goodness for that! Was starting to think I'd made a massive mistake and was wondering how to get out of the deal!

18th Sep 2012 10:53pm

adafish

Member Since: 30 Mar 2009
Location: atherstone
Posts: 1388

1984 Defender 110 300 Tdi DCPU Stornoway Grey

Porny wrote:
That shows how much JE knows then..... Bosch do not make the Puma ECU!

JLR use Bosch for most other things, but not Defender.

Ian

.................so you say, 4 TIMES

Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..

18th Sep 2012 10:58pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2268

still confused ?

ok , im still having problems with the engine running and management of my 2.2 . Some people are saying that its old news and has been done , others say its still a while away . Yes there are part time plug ins , but has the full time remap of the ecu been achieved yet ? My calls to a well known engineering company tell me that its still not been cracked .

23rd Sep 2012 10:17pm

bell-auto-services

Member Since: 08 Jul 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 2233

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

Hi Keith. No the real remap is not publicly available yet. As you say plug in boxes are but not real remaps.

IRB and my self at BAS hope to have our hybrid turbo back and on sale shortly after I get back from my holiday.

Pete

24th Sep 2012 6:30am

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2268

bell-auto-services wrote:
Hi Keith. No the real remap is not publicly available yet. As you say plug in boxes are but not real remaps.

IRB and my self at BAS hope to have our hybrid turbo back and on sale shortly after I get back from my holiday.

Pete

Thank you for your kind info . I didnt think so , Theres so much conflicting info but i believe you and the Je team on the correct info . I will be one of the first down there when its done , untill then put up with the worst engine iv ever driven , thank you .

24th Sep 2012 9:10pm

Porny
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Member Since: 31 Aug 2009
Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands
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If looking at plug in boxes....

I'd be asking questions about effects oil dilution, the effects on the DPF cleaning cycle, if the extra fuelling is added to all fuel injection pulses?

Does the plug in box look at the DPF (if not, the DPF will get blocked very quickly, and if extra fuel added during a cleaning cycle the DPF will get VERY hot), fault code logs, altitude levels etc etc.

I know boxes have got better, but they have always been a bodge method of tuning....

Ian IRB
The home of the first modified Keswick Green 90 - and the first 2.4 Puma through both the 200bhp and 550Nm barriers.

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26th Sep 2012 9:17pm

yobbie

Member Since: 15 Nov 2010
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 714

1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green

My plug in box when Ian (IRB) took it apart was just a couple of resistors for your £200 or more

I would never use another when you compare it to a proper remap.

26th Sep 2012 9:45pm

T7mbo

Member Since: 02 Aug 2012
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 45

Yes, that may be correct, but I think the overriding factor is that a proper remap is not available!
No matter how many times the question is asked, none of the so called experts seem able to tell us when a 'proper' remap might be available.
Why is the ability to provide a remap proving to be so difficult? Are we saying that Landrover themselves are unable to remap these ecu's? If they are able to, why is it proving so hard for independents to remap?
Do they lock the landrover engineers in the factory at Solihull overnight or something?

26th Sep 2012 11:51pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2268

T7mbo wrote:
Yes, that may be correct, but I think the overriding factor is that a proper remap is not available!
No matter how many times the question is asked, none of the so called experts seem able to tell us when a 'proper' remap might be available.
Why is the ability to provide a remap proving to be so difficult? Are we saying that Landrover themselves are unable to remap these ecu's? If they are able to, why is it proving so hard for independents to remap?
Do they lock the landrover engineers in the factory at Solihull overnight or something?

Great posting , , i couldnt agree more . Theres some geeky boffin sitting in his wee chalet high in the swiss mountains , writing the mapping codes for this 2.2 . Why are we all not getting a hold of this individual and sourceing his secret codes .?

27th Sep 2012 10:54pm

Porny
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Member Since: 31 Aug 2009
Location: Sutton Coldfield - West Midlands
Posts: 812

Hrmmm...

Might be worth a read here

http://defender2.net/forum/post172219.html#172219

Ian IRB
The home of the first modified Keswick Green 90 - and the first 2.4 Puma through both the 200bhp and 550Nm barriers.

www.IRBdevelopments.com

www.facebook.com/irbdevelopments

www.integrated316.com

www.facebook.com/integrated316

30th Sep 2012 9:30pm

yobbie

Member Since: 15 Nov 2010
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 714

keith wrote:
T7mbo wrote:
Yes, that may be correct, but I think the overriding factor is that a proper remap is not available!
No matter how many times the question is asked, none of the so called experts seem able to tell us when a 'proper' remap might be available.
Why is the ability to provide a remap proving to be so difficult? Are we saying that Landrover themselves are unable to remap these ecu's? If they are able to, why is it proving so hard for independents to remap?
Do they lock the landrover engineers in the factory at Solihull overnight or something?
Great posting , , i couldnt agree more . Theres some geeky boffin sitting in his wee chalet high in the swiss mountains , writing the mapping codes for this 2.2 . Why are we all not getting a hold of this individual and sourceing his secret codes .?

Think he might be sitting in a unit in Sutton Coldfield.

30th Sep 2012 9:38pm

me@td5.org

Member Since: 16 Jan 2011
Location: Warwick
Posts: 856

yobbie wrote:
Think he might be sitting in a unit in Sutton Coldfield.

30th Sep 2012 9:54pm

adafish

Member Since: 30 Mar 2009
Location: atherstone
Posts: 1388

we brought him a new clipboard and white coat for this....no pens tho, still wax crayons ( non-toxic) Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..

30th Sep 2012 10:01pm

yobbie

Member Since: 15 Nov 2010
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 714

adafish wrote:
we brought him a new clipboard and white coat for this....no pens tho, still wax crayons ( non-toxic)

Are you guys at L2B? I'll bring him a colouring book to keep him occupied

30th Sep 2012 10:25pm

adafish

Member Since: 30 Mar 2009
Location: atherstone
Posts: 1388

nope, we are at the OVERLAND and 4X4 show in Daventry...

Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..

30th Sep 2012 10:28pm

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