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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
1999 110 Defender sunroof
Mine leaks (shock horror)
The sunroof I have on mine is behind the drivers seat and has a dial you turn to lock the sunroof shut.
I have noticed the glass has a curve to it and in the middle it doesnt meet the rubber sealing strip. Is is normal to have a sunroof with a slight curve to it? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #144451 11th May 2012 8:40am
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farmer giles



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i'm sure my 1996 tdi sunroof (sprinkler system) has got a curve to it.
Post #144460 11th May 2012 9:54am
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megatoad



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For some obscure reason all sunroofs fitted by LR appear to be curved, probably still a job lot from the mini Metro production line Rolling with laughter

That said I believe it is a golden rule that ALL LR sunroofs leak, certainly my Disco one would save up a nice hidden puddle that it would then deposit down the back of my neck on a tight left hand turn Thud
Post #144461 11th May 2012 10:08am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Ok, if it has a curve to it thats not good... Need to find a solution to that... 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #144465 11th May 2012 10:49am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
After hopefully fixing the leaking Alpine window seal I decided to have another look at the sunroof.


Hopefully you can see the curve in the glass


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Then thought, what would happen if the handle could be stopped from going too close to the glass
A bit of foam and a bit of wood later...


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Before I do any alterations I will leave it for a night or two in the hope that it rains and the seal has sealed

If it does it work, then I will have to find a more tidier solution than a bodge! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #161959 14th Aug 2012 8:29pm
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yobbie



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green
Mines got a curve looks like it should be fitted to a different car. I took the sunroof out a couple of weeks ago and gave the seal a good clean it doesn't leak. Thumbs Up
Post #161976 14th Aug 2012 9:15pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I did consider removing the sunroof but most of the screws are rusted in place. So best they stay put!!!
It does look like the sunroof should be a flat type. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #161977 14th Aug 2012 9:17pm
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yobbie



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green
Shouldn't need to undo the screws when you open the sunroof using the knob you can flick round a catch (hard to discribe) and it disconects the knob to allow you to lift the sunroof to near 90 degrees then lift it out. Thumbs Up
Post #161982 14th Aug 2012 9:35pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Cheers, I will have a look. Do the hinges on the roof unhook ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #161983 14th Aug 2012 9:36pm
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yobbie



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 Heritage LE Bronze Green
Yes, as you lift towards 90 degrees they unhook. As for the rear windows I put high density foam between the 2 pains of glass to stop the rattling and used wide electrical type tape to seal them up. I can't upen them now but they don't rattle or leak just use the a/c if it gets really hot.
Post #161985 14th Aug 2012 9:42pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I shall have a look tomorrow or at the weekend at the lifting of the sun roof.
Don't fancy taping up the windows and I have no A/C, just my flaps! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #161990 14th Aug 2012 9:52pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I had a look at the sunroof tonight and sussed how to make the roof open to 90 degrees. There is a little spring loaded metal clip that moves.

Anyways. Removed the sun roof and then looked at the seal and removed it.
Cleaned up the old silicone and dried off the seal best I could. On refitting the seal, I noticed three ribs that run around the seal. Using hopefully the correct logic, I decided to fir the seal so the double rib fitted into the bottom slot and the top rib aligned with the top slot.
Using a filler strip fitting tool I pushed the ribs into the bottom slot and worked around the seal then did the same with the top rib.

On fitting the seal looks to be fitted upside down compared to how it was originally. I wonder if the seal had been removed in the past and put back in upside down?
I now have a curve on the edge of the rubber that meets with the glass but curves inwards so hopefully a better seal. I also decided to run some Sikaflex around the seal just in case.

When refitting the sunroof glass I spotted some water come out of the screw caps that hold the handle to the glass, so took the chance to remove the screws and reseal again with some Sikaflex.

This made me wonder if the water wasn't getting past the glass but past the screws and dripping in ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #162231 15th Aug 2012 10:43pm
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couplands



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Old post resurrection alert..!

Just been searching for answers how to remove the sun roof surround so I can seal it.

However, my point is about the curved glass. On mine, when tightening the sun roof handle, it will initially stop when the glass reaches the rubber seal, but if the handle is tightened further it will pull the curved glass down to the rubber seal, even in the middle. Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

Simon
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K9F



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Couplands I know this is for a Discovery and it is different but you could perhaps glean some information here. Not sure if you have drainage pipes as per the Discovery but they were very prone to blocking and perishing causing water ingress issues too. It may help perhaps?

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f38/discover...99543.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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@K9F, the Defender sunroof does not have drainpipes. Leakage is often caused by worn or dirty (algae) rubber seals or bad fitting of the seal in the roof. Cheers, Vincent
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