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superspoons



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Ahhh!!!!! Unbelievable.
Due to pick up my 3 year old 110 2.4 XS on Thursday from LR Main Dealer. Part of the deal was to replace the drivers seat base cover with a new one as the existing one was split. I've arranged for a tracker to be fitted at home on Thursday and a lift to the dealership to collect it beforehand. Received a voice message call at 18:40 today (Tuesday) saying it now won't be ready until Friday because replacing the seat the base, and I quote "is extremely expensive" & "not financially viable" for them!

WHAT! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Tough is my initial response. It was part of the deal. If it cost them money then unlucky. I don't want it repaired (it only split again) I want it replaced. I've paid for the tracker to be fitted by a 3rd party and need to get it on asap - hence why I choose Thursday.

Thoughts before I ring up the Dealer Prinicple at 9am tomorrow and give them grief. What would you do? Cheers,
Superspoons


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Post #141429 24th Apr 2012 7:09pm
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bob neville



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Do you have it in writing that they will sort the base out ?

If you have, go in with all guns blazing Thumbs Up

Phone the principal and give him **** anyway, they will probably struggle to sell the vehicle with a damaged seat base and are just trying it on.

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Expensive to fix a seat base?? About £160 with labour!
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Sounds like the salesman made a rash comment amount replacing it and now the Branch Manager has got wind of it and the cost involved - tough. Presume it's just out of warranty if not they don't have a leg to stand on anyway!

There is a dealership feedback section on this site Whistle
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Re: Ahhh!!!!! Unbelievable.
superspoons wrote:
Received a voice message call at 18:40 today (Tuesday) saying it now won't be ready until Friday because replacing the seat the base, and I quote "is extremely expensive" & "not financially viable" for them!



So, they are not replacing the seat base,, and it won't be ready on time as agreed ???

I smell a rat Shocked

Whether in writing or not,, you have a message on your phone, with someone at the dealer now saying they can now not replace the seat base,, evidence enough that it was part of the deal !!

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Post #141449 24th Apr 2012 7:54pm
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superspoons



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The issue of the seat base and the cover being replaced (not repaired as they now want to do) was written down on the salesman's sheet 'worksheet' along with the Full Service and removing the rear window guards. I've just looked and I don't have it written down on my sales receipt...damm.

Roll on 9am Wednesday.

Should I not get anywhere I will name and shame. It's a tiny issue for them but will lose them my custom to service it and my uncles order for a D4 - I've just rang him and told him what's happened and he's 40k will be going elsewhere - probably a Merc unfortuantley... Cheers,
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superspoons wrote:

Should I not get anywhere I will name and shame. It's a tiny issue for them but will lose them my custom to service it and my uncles order for a D4 - I've just rang him and told him what's happened and he's 40k will be going elsewhere - probably a Merc unfortuantley...

Good luck when you do give it a go. Why a Merc? How about a different dealer they're not all the same luckily. Not always the same prices either Whistle Thumbs Up
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i'd ring them at 0800hrs and keep going from then, i expect people are in from 0730, plus email them now to say you are calling etc etc.

i would not go all guns blazing just point out the error of their ways and that you want it sorted and need the vehicle thur unless they will meet the 3rd party costs.

can they not take a seat cover off another vehicle? i am assuming its a front one. Cheers

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I would suggest to the dealer principal that their actions are perfectly reasonable - they did not at the time realise how much the additional expense will hurt them.

Of course, you have now had chance to consider your own position and similarly you have decided that financially you may have over committed yourself and so are now going to give them £300 less to make u feel better about yourself.

Or just find another in used car stock swap the fekr over.

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Post #141484 24th Apr 2012 9:28pm
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Before anything else, find out the price of a new seat base and also speak with a trimmer about a replacement base. To be honest, if a decent trimmer repairs the base it will probably be better than a factory made base; the problem is that they will find it hard to find the correct centre trim.

I would not go guns blazing but I would offer to reject the car on the basis that the original terms of sale have not been met. If you do, they must return the deposit.
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Ahhh, there is pushing the dealer to which you are entitled of course, however if the defender was right in all other respects I would evaluate whether I would want to resume the search for another vehicle over a seat base. It's still barking of the dealer though. Maybe you really spanked into their margin on the negotiation bit Laughing Captain Nick Medhurst would ask:
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superspoons



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Dave, agreed. It's a good 110 but what has really ****ed me off is the 'not cost effective to replace' after agreeing to do it. It's bird seed to them but I want a seat that isn't split along the side. Not too much to ask for given the sales of LR's these days. I did strike a good deal I was happy with ...up until now.

I just can't understand their mentality - am I likely to buy from them a 3rd time or get it serviced there based on this.... answer on a postcard Rolling Eyes Cheers,
Superspoons
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Take your money elsewhere Thumbs Up
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Re: Ahhh!!!!! Unbelievable.
superspoons wrote:
Received a voice message call at 18:40 today (Tuesday) saying it now won't be ready until Friday because replacing the seat the base, and I quote "is extremely expensive" & "not financially viable" for them


Is there not some misunderstanding here, I read the post as the dealer is replacing the seat base, else why is there a delay in delivery, they state " delivery will be Friday because of replacing the seat base".

I would clarify what is actually happening before going in guns blazing. Richard

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superspoons



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Hi Richard,

Initially that's what I requested - a new drivers seat base. I then agree to having just the seat base cover replaced as they said it was too expensive to replace the whole base as the seat base has a heater element in it (blah blah) ... Now they want to repair the existing seat base not recover it at that's too expensive too.

Part of the deal was to to replace the cover on the seat base - not repair it. Cheers,
Superspoons
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