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| Will.I.AM Member Since: 16 May 2013 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 338   
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if i may comment on this. I have had a few vehicles tuned and the best experience i have experience with the best results yet was from Gareth at Empire tuning. I would definately reccomed speaking to him and going with his advice. Defender 130 HCPU TD5
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6th Jun 2023 9:49am |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1523
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mileage does have a bearing on full big power remaps but at those miles i would happily map one
speak to the tuners you fancy and get their opinion. |
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6th Jun 2023 10:07am |
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| Mitchnotrich Member Since: 27 Apr 2019 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 41 
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Try Bell Auto Services. I've got to say, that I was really unimpressed with the Puma engine (having previously had 300 TDI and TD5 engines), but after a stage 1 re-map its a much improved. I also went with the Nakatenaga RAI as well as it bypasses that restricted air flow to the filter box, that also made a difference. Do it, it makes pulling off at the lights much easier and other than one piece half shafts at the back and the usual Ashcroft mainshaft replacement when I had a new clutch, I haven't done anything else to the driveline to improve it. 90 - Gone but not forgotten
200 tdi - sold for a song 3 Discoveries - 1/2/3 - cost me a fortune but loved 'em all 2.4 Puma 90 - Current obsession |
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6th Jun 2023 10:23am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857 
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+1 for BAS
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6th Jun 2023 2:40pm |
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| mwestcrew Member Since: 09 Dec 2019 Location: South Warwickshire Posts: 216 
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Another +1 for BAS.
I did my truck at 111,000 miles and it improved it considerably. I’ve also done the air box mod and bigger inter cooler. If you use all the new found power all the time and thrape the daylights out of it you will probably have problems, but using it sensibly there’s no reason a higher mileage engine can’t deal with a re-map. BAS ask you about your vehicle and what you want the map for. 2011 130 Utility Body 2005 110 Van |
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6th Jun 2023 3:37pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3612 
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IRB did my 2.4 several years ago set up for towing my caravan, very happy with the results DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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6th Jun 2023 6:35pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1727  
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IRB
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6th Jun 2023 6:49pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586  
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+1 for BAS, been running their remap since 2011
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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6th Jun 2023 9:38pm |
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| Minch90 Member Since: 15 Sep 2017 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 227
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Another vote for BAS in my 09 2.4, with air box mod and nugget stuff inlet it pulls like a train with an intake growl. Fab stuff 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
S3 V8 Lightweight - in the garage being ignored #newchassistime S3 lightweight - 2nd car 24V fire risk with a full tilt and the windscreen down S1 80" - first car fun - 75mph in neutral downhill once #wobblesallround |
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7th Jun 2023 7:23am |
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| andy2111 Member Since: 17 Oct 2021 Location: Kent Posts: 365 
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I recommend Alive Tuning. If you take your vehicle to them they will put it on their dyno and refine the tune to your engine and how it's is performing.
I've used them a couple of times. Very friendly, first class service and they really know their stuff. TD5 hardtop to Puma inspired Poptop - my build thread 2002 110 TD5 Hardtop ¦ Full Puma interior ¦ Carpathian grey / Santorini black ¦ X-Vision-X poptop |
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7th Jun 2023 7:56am |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1736
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Before any map I would suggest upgrading the highly restrictive air intake piping. I.e using the nugget stuff intake upgrade, then look at a BAS intercooler and silicon hose upgrade.
You will notice the engine performance improves with those upgrades alone. Then if you still feel you need more performance your vehicle is now set up perfectly to take full advantage of a tune from any quality tuner. Note: the standard intercooler is prone to splitting and the hoses deteriorating, and a tune will no doubt push them harder. So good preventative maintenance plus a tune will benefit from a far bigger air intake and performance Intercooler and hoses. So all good things to do to ensure a 119k engine can cope very well with a tune. |
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7th Jun 2023 9:14am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586
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I have the same! With that nugget airbox, it really transforms the vehicle 
May I also suggest a bigger intercooler  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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7th Jun 2023 9:41am |
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| bodstruck Member Since: 09 May 2020 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 774
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I have a BAS remap, airbox mod and a Naka raised air intake on my 175k 2.4.
I wasn't considering a remap but I wanted to blank the egr (as it had failed) and having that mapped out on its own was only a few quid cheaper than a full remap from BAS so I went for it. Personally I thought the 2.4 was good without it and if we're not for the egr problems I might not have bothered. Glad I did though. Runs well, pulls well and fuel economy is up. |
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7th Jun 2023 9:42am |
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| Yesjus Member Since: 19 Sep 2022 Location: Surrey Posts: 78 
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Thanks for the advice. I’ve contacted a few of the mentioned above to see what they suggest.
BAS seems the most likely as it’s plug a play but the cost is something to consider as she’s already cost me some unexpected (or expected!) issues that’s needed sorting over the year I’ve had it. Anyone in the Surrey area who have had a remap closer to home that they have experience of? Also I have put in the Ultragauge dash conversion so don’t want a remap where I need to keep it plugged in. |
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7th Jun 2023 10:04am |
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