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jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 374

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Where (how) to sell machinery?

Hi all,

I'm after some sales advice.

I'm currently in the process of buying a house. And it comes with a nice workshop, that is pretty well equipped with some machinery that I just don't need. The previous owner used to make/restore vintage cars, and did most of it from scratch.

I'm talking about a large lathe, couple of mills (one of which is huge!), presses, precision grinders that sort of thing. It's a serious selection of kit, with some of them being more than 3m wide! I've not checked, but I'm sure they'll all be 3 phase. The workshop has a 3 phase supply, so it would make sense.

It's all quite old, but from what I understand, that's no bad thing for this type of kit. From a quick bit of googling, the brands are pretty well respected stuff. Edgwick lathe, Adcock-Shipley mills (which were later became bridgeport) etc. But I wonder if the age of kit moves it into (serious) hobby territory rather than manufacturing normal engineering.

No mad rush, but once the sale is complete, I'll look to sell some/most of the machines to pay for other toys that I actually will use.

So, apart from ebay, where does one sell stuff like this? Presume there are some dedicated dealers out there for this sort of stuff. Does anyone have any experience in this space? It's near Gatwick if that has any relevance to companies etc.

I appreciate that the moving/removal is likely to be a significant piece given the weight of the items. The large mill must weight a couple of tonnes at least. I'ts over 2m high and about the size of my 90!

I can/will pop a for sale advert up on here in due course, but at this stage I'm just trying to work out an approach that'll be workable.

Cheers

Jon

10th Jan 2023 1:55pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16858

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

If it is pre-CNC it is almost certainly of interest only to the home workshop or occasional user. If it is pre-DRO it is of limited interest even to that category now.

There are dealers, but private sales through forums, eBay, and FB marketplace are probably as good a method as any.

As with most commodities (perhaps other than cars) sold to a dealer, expect around 1/3rd of the apparent market value if selling to a dealer. Sadly many old machine tools are worth more as scrap than as tools.

10th Jan 2023 2:25pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 374

Appreciate your reply BW.

The big mill does have some sort of digital display attached to it (so perhaps this puts it in the DRO category), but it's certainly all Pre CNC.

The guy who lived there was well into his 90s and (from what I can tell) and the machinery and workshop have been there for at least 30 years, probably longer.

I've got a picture or two on my phone from one of the viewings, I'll load up to show you what I mean. I'll also start joining some Facebook groups and forums!

Cheers

Jon

10th Jan 2023 4:04pm

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5736

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

Over the years I have seen various machinery sold on mig-welding.co.uk forum. Maybe worth a look on there - not sure on the etiquette for joining just to sell? 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

10th Jan 2023 4:07pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 374

Thanks I'll have a look.

Ironically welding is one area that I'll probably be doing more of. While I'll never be a machinist (and therefore these machines are well above my needs), I'm quite lilkey to get back into car welding and restoration when I have the time.

Appreciate the point on joining to sell though, it never looks good!

Maybe if I'm luck someone will offer to swap me a decent welder for another machine

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10th Jan 2023 4:24pm

Moo

Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: Bath
Posts: 1019

It'd be good to see some pictures. I have many friends who have workshops who are always on the look out for kit. I might be interested in the milling machine.

Sadly, whilst the quality of the older machinery is very good, its value now doesn't reflect its quality.

Have a look at some the hobby engineering groups on Facebook and gauge interest there.

10th Jan 2023 4:27pm

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5736

Maybe worth a join, post some pics asking for info and go from there, it might perk some interest(and ask about welding) 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

10th Jan 2023 4:29pm

jpboost

Member Since: 13 Apr 2021
Location: Gatwick
Posts: 374

Thanks All,

A couple of pics here for interest.

I'll let you know how I get on, and advertise properly once I know what it all is!

Cheers

Jon

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10th Jan 2023 4:46pm

rustandoil

Member Since: 08 Sep 2012
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 663

2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Bonatti Grey

Might be worth contacting these people

https://www.west-point.co.uk/

10th Jan 2023 6:57pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16858

I have to say that they are large for a home workshop, sadly probably too large for most which, together with the 3PH requirement, may limit their appeal. The mill has DROs (good selling point), I can't tell from the photo if the Edgewick has. They look in excellent condition.

What's the centre distance and swing over the bed of the lathe?

It is possible that something like a heritage railway might be interested (although as a rule they have little money).

10th Jan 2023 8:17pm

Ianh

Member Since: 17 Sep 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 1740

I’m now suffering from lathe envy .

10th Jan 2023 8:36pm

sako243

Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 1185

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

I know someone who'd snap that off you almost certainly probably and can move it (only has a 50tm HIAB available to him).

Localish to Gatwick too. Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi

10th Jan 2023 11:18pm

landy andy

Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 5416

2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver

Ianh wrote:
I’m now suffering from lathe envy .

I’m suffering from house envy if it comes with that lot and a workshop.

10th Jan 2023 11:37pm

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