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| Pob Member Since: 23 Jan 2009 Location: Midlands Posts: 119   
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I have point 3 with mine and I am told it's normal/common. My mates does it and he has thousands of miles on his now with no issues.
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13th Apr 2009 9:06pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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Point 4: It is likely to be your handbrake. There is an issue with some of them being "out of round". I have the same problem on mine - as you coast to a stop you get a chuntering in the transmission.
If you bring it to a stop on the handbrake (which vibrates like hell), it tends to clear up for a while. The dealers tend to try and adjust the handbrake by slackening it off. Don't settle for that - the only fix is a new drum. I'm going to give the dealer one more go at mine. If they don't resolve it then I'm going to fit an X-brake and ensure that they agree to warranty the rest of the drive train. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS + New Defender 110 First Edition |
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13th Apr 2009 9:57pm |
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| LRnovice Member Since: 08 May 2008 Location: Cardiff Posts: 59 
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I think point 1 and 2 may be normal (I get them on mine). Point 4 have a look at the entry by Sticky dated 1st Jan 2009 and titled Strange 'clunking' noise when you come off the power. I had this a couple of times but it seems to have stopped.
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13th Apr 2009 10:11pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic233.html
1 Sorry cant help 2 Front CV excessive wear 3 Rear Diff issues. 4 Front CV excessive wear 5 Get a hose on it, Its probably the windscreen rubber. Front CV Park the car on a slight slope facing up the slope, Let the car roll backwards slowly without the engine started. Get a mate to listen and watch the each wheel rotate. If the a CV joint has gone the wheel will stop rotating for a split second as it then rotates again you will hear a clunk. Obviously do this in a safe place
Check the rear prop bolts, the 4 on the park brake drum sometimes work loose. |
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14th Apr 2009 9:28am |
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| bustduster Member Since: 13 Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 14 |
Thanks to all for your replies. Good to know we're not alone out there! Will discuss queries with dealer at first service and report back. On a more positive note I have to say I find that the Puma makes an excellent long distance tourer for camping/towing. Recently done two fairly long round trips without missing a beat. One of the best I've experienced for feeling fresh and without backache after a long stint even though over six foot.
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14th Apr 2009 10:26pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6266  
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bustduster
point 1 - I know exactly what you mean and would love to tell you I have the answer - but I'm afraid I don't. Please let me know if you get it resolved. With mine it tends to happen less when its cold? And it's a 50/50 thing, sometimes it runs as sweet as a nut and other times not?  |
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18th Apr 2009 12:10am |
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| gtveloce65 Member Since: 10 Nov 2008 Location: West Sussex Posts: 107 
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I recognise most of these:
1) I get the pinking noise and am told it is typical for the engine - in fact as I started mentioning it the service engineer said 'like pinking in a petrol engine?'. I've flagged it for the record and will monitor, but it's been exactly the same for the last since new (7,500 miles) 2) I've had the revised clutch fitted and this hasn't addressed transmission clunk or shunt. Appears to be noise from the gearbox and back axle, but again, I've flagged it and will get it looked at next service if it gets any worse. Many people have reported loose UJ bolts, so it would be worth checking - mine were fine. 3) I too have the slight whine, but this does seem to be generally accepted as a feature. I would never have heard it in the Td5 above the engine and other noise... 4) I had significant front brake pad rattle when new and this was resolved early on. however, there's also a post somewhere on the site (can't find it just now) about concerns about the front output shaft which may cause the knocking when coming to a halt in neutral 5) I had problems with my old Td5 - turned out to be the seal for the windscreen joiner plates. The water was coming off the end of the gutter below the screen, onto the top of the covers and then leaking through failed seals and through the bolt-holes. Resolved by guy Salmon. The Tdci leaked slightly when new (ie, within week of delivery) but has never leaked since... 1953 80 1965 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce Sprint 1980 Fiat 124 Spider 2008 110xs |
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21st Apr 2009 6:02pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6266
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so the service guy recognised the sound. surely isn't typical as mine doesn't do it all time?
if it can sound sweet as a nut some of the time then surely it should all of the time? I can't help but think its doing some long term damage.? |
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21st Apr 2009 10:09pm |
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| bustduster Member Since: 13 Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 14 |
gtveloce65
re: point 4. When your front brake pad rattle was resolved early on did they explain what they did to fix it? |
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27th Apr 2009 11:04pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5028 
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Could be this: Mike |
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27th Apr 2009 11:36pm |
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| Bosun Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Great Berry Posts: 141 
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Caterham,
I have to agree with you, especially regarding any damage being done. As an engineer in the vehicle development business, I have to beleive that all the clunking and banging must affect fatigue life and durability. Currently I'm having difficulty not ranting incessantly at the dealer about this. They acknowledge a problem, or problems, and I need to keep them on my side. It's b****y Land Rover, who think it's all quite normal ("it's characteristic of the marque Sir!"). Maybe on a 10 year old Defender, but not one that's just come out of the showroom so to speak. Has anyone else come up against an impenetrable barrier at LR Customer relations, if so, how? Bosun. |
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28th Apr 2009 7:17am |
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| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459 
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Er yes! Go higher! |
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28th Apr 2009 8:03am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6266
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I had a chat with the nice Land Rover assist guy the other day (problem with the power steering fluid - well lack of actually due to a pipe off the pump coming loose - but thats another story).
anyway reading between the lines he didn't think the pinking noise was normal and after chatting to him about the recall on the fuel tank breather he went straight to the fuel filter and drained it off a bit. I had another go later and was amazed at the amount of what appeared to be silt come out of it..... I'll be in touch with the dealer in due course. But this sort of thing ain't going to help the thing to run smoothly. However I still believe there's a sensor / switch / electronic problem with the pinking. If I wasn't so impressed with how smooth it CAN be sometimes I probably wouldn't be so concerned. But if it can be great some of the time then surely it should be all of the time - if you know what I mean.  |
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28th Apr 2009 8:40am |
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| Bosun Member Since: 21 Jul 2008 Location: Great Berry Posts: 141
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The Boy,
Yes I know, but how do I go higher? Any correspondence with LR Customer Relations just goes to someone calling themselves a "Customer Relations Executive", whatever that might be. Silly me, a CRE must be another name for a brick wall in LR speak. I've come to the conclusion, to be effective, any correspondence needs be addressed to an individual (one that has some clout!). Bosun |
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28th Apr 2009 9:50am |
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