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def110sw



Member Since: 26 Jul 2022
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
advice needed please
May I please tap into the collective wisdom of the site?

A rather strange one... I have a 2011 TDCi 2.4 Puma 110

When in neutral with the clutch in all sounds fine. When I let the clutch out (but only in neutral) I get a new fairly loud noise - almost a rattling - from under vehicle perhaps? Goes immediately that I put the clutch back in.

No issue at all with gear selection, clutch function, engine strong, etc...

Wondered if anyone could give me a diagnosis/other thoughts?

Thanks for any help!
Post #960725 5th Aug 2022 8:39pm
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Leamreject



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Italy 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Fuji White
Possibly a clutch pressure plate spring broken loose. Ride like you stole it!!
Post #960731 5th Aug 2022 9:12pm
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blackwolf



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I'm guessing that you're confused with your "in" and "out". A clutch is "in" when the pedal is up and "out" when the pedal is pressed. If I'm right in my guess, then likely causes are compressed springs in the driven plate or chatter in the gearbox.

What does it do if you select neutral on the transfer box and have it in a gear in the main box and repeat your test?

If you switch off the engine with the main box in neutral and the clutch in (i.e., pedal up) do you get a noticeable sharp rattle as the engine stops? This is the usual symptom of a dying driven plate.

Do you know how old the driven plate is (years/miles)?
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RobKeay



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I had a brand new 2.4 that rattled almost from new. It was as mentioned above knackered spring on the clutch plate
Post #960741 5th Aug 2022 9:55pm
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def110sw



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thanks all

I am grateful

I also think black wolf is right with his in/out description!

Will do those other tests and re-report....

Thanks
Post #960748 5th Aug 2022 10:30pm
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def110sw



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so tests done!

1. ''What does it do if you select neutral on the transfer box and have it in a gear in the main box and repeat your test?'' - answer: exactly the same thing

2. ''If you switch off the engine with the main box in neutral and the clutch in (i.e., pedal up) do you get a noticeable sharp rattle as the engine stops?'' - answer: the usual vibration of engine stopping (is that the oil centrifuge or something?? Anyway entirely as usual) then, when that has stopped, a much quieter but new rattle I had not previously noted - so probs yes....

Best get the clutch looked at... Sad
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ickle



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The 'new rattle' when the engine has stopped is probably the EGR doing its normal cleaning cycle ie three 'chuggas' - you have a different problem if it stops making this noise!

HTH Keith
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blackwolf



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No centrifugal filter on a.Puma. I fear your driven plate is on its last legs.
Post #960857 6th Aug 2022 9:57pm
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Ads90



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Sounds similar to my issue, which as I was advised was the springs rattling on the clutch plate, so a new clutch solved it.
Have a look at the 2.4 CLUTCH REPLACEMENT - WHAT ELSE TO GET DONE? thread in PUMA TDCI.
(Sorry, I don’t know how to link to a thread on my mobile).
Post #960869 6th Aug 2022 11:35pm
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def110sw



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cheers all - will get it looked and and update once definite outcome!
Post #960907 7th Aug 2022 11:16am
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