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lightning



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Price increases
l ordered a Defender 90 Commercial at the beginning of 2022, delivery is quoted as spring 2023
The total order including options was £50,995

On the configurator today, the same vehicle is coming out at £54,250. Obviously Land Rover are taking advantage of the order backlog to hike prices, they had already deleted the D200 from the configurator when l ordered mine.

My question is, will my order be honoured at the £50,995 on my order form or will l have to pay the huge £3,250 increase?[/u]
Post #954850 7th Jun 2022 7:55pm
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soundslegal



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LR are not honouring prices, in fact whilst they gave an element of price protection from MY22 to MY23 back in October/November, they have withdrawn that protection entirely. So unless your dealer wants to give you a discount (unlikely to be much) you pay the hike or cancel. Mine is up £7k...
Post #954851 7th Jun 2022 7:57pm
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lightning



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Well, that's my Defender dream out of the window then, l had a maximum budget of £50,000, and l
took care with the few options that allowed on the base price.

And they've increased the price so it's close to £55,000

The base vehicle has gone up from £47,250 to £51,000 for what is essentially a van. l doubt Lane Rover or the dealer will care if l cancel my order, when there's an 18 month-2 year waiting list for the Commercial.
Post #954854 7th Jun 2022 8:05pm
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XplusYplusZ



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I ordered a pretty bog standard 110 d250 x-dynamic S (basically just 7 seats and driver assistance on the base spec), in Oct 21, expected delivery Aug'22.

For me, the MY23.5 would be a £7.5k (14%) increase, for a bunch of stuff I didn't want.

My dealer told me similar to the above comment; "LR are not committing to price protection" - I am struggling to understand how 'price protection' is optional. I thought that by paying a deposit, both parties were agreeing to exchange the product at the price agreed. Reading some contract law, it's verging on bait & switch. But from what I understand, the only legal repercussion is that the consumer has the ability to cancel the contract and get a refund. I can't find anywhere that states LR would have to sell the agreed spec at the agreed price..

Any contract lawyers in here?

Up to this point I haven't broached this topic with the dealer as they told me the factory are still trying to crunch through as many MY23s before switching to MY23.5s. I am very close to having my build slotted, but it's not clear when they'll stop producing MY23s.

I would think spring 2023 is too far out to realistically expect them to be still producing MY23s..
Post #955271 12th Jun 2022 11:15am
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juwivive



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I thought that by paying a deposit, both parties were agreeing to exchange the product at the price agreed.


Disclaimer: not a lawyer.

By paying a deposit and signing an order form, you've agreed to enter into a contract for the delivery of a motor vehicle, pursuant to the terms of the contract. The provisions of the contact will dictate whether the price of the vehicle is at the time of the agreement is the price you'll pay if there are later price increases.

I have a Porsche Macan on order following my cancellation of my Defender order. The contract for that states that if there is a price increase, the dealer must notify me of the price increase and that if this does happen, I have the right to cancel within 14 days.

So that means if Porsche were to increase the price, not offer any price protection and I still wanted to take delivery, I'd have to pay. I've signed the contract, and I'm bound by its terms.

It's interesting to contrast the LR situation with Porsche:

* Porsche is still producing MY22 cars.
* Porsche does not have .5 model years.
* MY23 is not due until late July/August, though the configurator has been updated.
* For MY22 cars, the only specification change has been to remove electronic adjustment of the steering wheel. This is supposed to be included in the 14- or 18-way seat options, and the price of this option will apparently be reduced to compensate for the change.
* For MY23 cars, there are a few minor option changes (and a few option prices have decreased, believe it or not).
* Option availability does not seem to change every time I speak to/email the dealer.

Porsche doesn't seem to be having as bad a semiconductor crisis as LR, despite them losing a load of cars in a ship fire.

My particular order was placed in early December, and is for a GTS, for which the dealer seem to get around 3 allocations per quarter. I had a provisional build slot by the end of February, though the build date has slipped due to the Ukraine situation. The car has been built and is at the port in Germany waiting for a ship. I suspect I'd still be waiting for my Defender order to be built.
Post #955274 12th Jun 2022 11:43am
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