↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home > Puma (Tdci) > 2007 2.4 loss of power, ideas?
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 2 of 2 <12
Print this entire topic · 
custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19517

United Kingdom 
Does sound like actuator sticking on overboost, I had it with mine a few months ago.
It’ll act as if there is no power at all. You could go along with your foot flat to the floorboards in 3rd gear and you’ll have to drop back on an incline.

I took the circlip off the top actuator arm pivot. (Careful not to lose it).
Then could actuate the arm by hand disconnected from the electronic actuator.
A bit of 3 in 1 oil on moving parts and then put back together.

No issue after. Yes, it can do it cold too for a short while.

I wonder if the electric actuators get weaker with age, not to mention getting sticky vanes and pivots.

I did consider replacing the EA on mine, but as it worked perfectly once lubed input it down to that.
Sometimes where you wash them water gets all over that area that won’t help…

One of those things that I put a bit of oil on regular now just like prop shaft greasing. Ideal job to do all at the same time. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~
I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧
Post #953618 25th May 2022 10:06pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
WilkoW



Member Since: 09 Jun 2013
Location: Northants
Posts: 84

United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Thanks Steve. I’ll try this tomorrow as perhaps the actuator has been affected by the new engine installed.
Post #953622 25th May 2022 10:17pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19517

United Kingdom 
Worth a shot anyway, it’s only the upper pivot circlip you need to take off.
As I said be careful not to lose it which is easily done. Lube it and free it up by hand and operate it.

Beyond that, just regular lube should do and not have to take the circlip off.

Bear in mind it gets really hot, that’s why I just use a little 3 in 1 oil on a dripper.
My concern with grease is that A it’d need to be super high temp, but more importantly when that would dry out it’d likely get even more sticky and far worse and attract a lot of detritus and cause more wear.

IIRC down towards the ground is full boost and up is the off boost. Mine was a bit sticky near the bottom hence why I had overboost then limp mode triggered by it.
Bit of lube and was fine after.

Good luck Thumbs Up Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~
I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧
Post #953625 25th May 2022 11:58pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Minch90



Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 226

United Kingdom 
Planning on a bit of propshaft greasing this weekend, will now include a bit of turbo actuator oiling too! Thanks guys 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
S3 V8 Lightweight - in the garage being ignored #newchassistime
S3 lightweight - 2nd car 24V fire risk with a full tilt and the windscreen down
S1 80" - first car fun - 75mph in neutral downhill once #wobblesallround
Post #953631 26th May 2022 6:39am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7681

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Does sound like actuator.

My problem one is now running fixed vane as short term fix Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #953698 26th May 2022 5:03pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
WilkoW



Member Since: 09 Jun 2013
Location: Northants
Posts: 84

United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Weirdly, it’s still making the whooshing sound (under WOT) and sometimes it loses power (turbo stops spooling) which resolves itself when the ignition is cycled so I’m wondering if it’s the complete actuator that’s knackered or if this could be an electronic issue?

I’ve checked all the pipes and hoses which are all fine.

Any ideas before I take it to a garage?
Post #954508 3rd Jun 2022 8:20pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 19517

United Kingdom 
Well you can try a new actuator, but if you go to a garage they’ll likely suggest a new turbo as a complete unit.
The actuators have part number stamped on them, it’s not unknown for actuators to get worn with mileage or filled up with dust and rubbish.

If you do try a new actuator / recon then find it doesn’t work out and you do need a new turbo and compete assembly including actuator then you can take off your new actuator put the old one back on and sell it again.

Personally I would go for a new / new recon actuator that shares the identical part number and see how that goes.
With mine I had an overboost DTC show up, which told me that it was turbo related and the EA and linakage added to the symptoms when driving.
If you get over or under boost and limp mode when you are driving it will run but you have perhaps 20% of normal power.
In other words you can do 30mph with your foot flat on the floor and you won’t be going anywhere quick and you’ll have a 0 to 50mph barely in about 2 minutes. Rolling with laughter Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~
I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧
Post #954515 3rd Jun 2022 10:11pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
WilkoW



Member Since: 09 Jun 2013
Location: Northants
Posts: 84

United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Daft question probably, but should the actuator arm/rod move up and down freely with the engine off, or should it move by hand?

It won’t budge at present…
Post #954643 5th Jun 2022 8:25pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16855

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The actuator cannot be moved be hand. If you disconnect the actuator rod from the actuator then the rod should move extremely freely (it feels as though it isn't doing anything, it is so free).

With the engine switched off the actuator should be in mid-position.
Post #954661 5th Jun 2022 10:58pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 2 of 2 <12
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DEFENDER2.NET RSS Feed - All Forums