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Magoyo



Member Since: 04 Feb 2022
Location: Buenos Aires
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Argentina 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Lost or forgotten Key - Never more
Preparing our family trip to Patagonia this summer, one of several concerns was what if i forget the key inside de truck, or worse, what if i lost the key....
Yes the correct answer is to keep the second one inside , but i will prefer not to broke any window.
and a solution i found was a Master Lock iron box, with a mecanic key code, that i fixed to the chasis.
it si totaly sealed and isolated.
Fortunately no need to open it yet, but i´m calm thinking that the key is there.
Another profit , i can go to explore with no need to carry the keys with me.
upload some pics

by the way, the same Lock Box i fixed by my door , with a second key of my house.Very usefull for the kids...



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Post #941195 6th Feb 2022 1:52am
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
that chassis is looking good for a 2009 when was the photo taken DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #941202 6th Feb 2022 7:36am
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Dinnu



Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
What a great idea... I have locked the keys inside my old 90 countless times Embarassed Seems like I could never learn... and always pushed the lock down and then closed the door... and oops.. may times with the keys still in the ignition Big Cry
Luckily my newer 90 is with central lock, so I lock through the remote.

Yes, that chassis looks like new. Guess no salty roads in Buenos Aires... and kept far from the Atlantic ocean. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #941204 6th Feb 2022 8:02am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Please be aware that those key boxes (that particular make) can be opened in seconds without damage if you know how to do it, you don't even need any tools. You can "read" the combination it has been set to undetectably and then open it any time you wish.

I would never under any circumstances leave a key for anything important in one.
Post #941214 6th Feb 2022 10:00am
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nosnibod



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
I agree with Blackwolf - it took me less than 20 seconds googling to find out how to open that key safe. Doesn’t need any tools at all, is undetectable, and can be locked again with no evidence.

If you want to be paranoid - have a google for ‘lock picking lawyer’. Dave
Gracie - 2015 110 XS County Station Wagon


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Post #941219 6th Feb 2022 10:27am
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donmacn



Member Since: 07 Nov 2017
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Oh dear…. We have a spare house key in one, though it is quite tucked away. I’ll not search for the lock picking lawyer till I’ve had my coffee.

But it begs the question, is there a similar thing that’s deemed more effective?

I was thinking of doing something quite similar for our summer trip. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #941221 6th Feb 2022 10:31am
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Leamreject



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Italy 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Fuji White
I suppose you need to know it’s there, and surely much better than the old magnetic key box pictured that wasn’t lockable.



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 Ride like you stole it!!
If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do…
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Post #941222 6th Feb 2022 10:39am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
donmacn wrote:
Oh dear…. We have a spare house key in one, though it is quite tucked away. I’ll not search for the lock picking lawyer till I’ve had my coffee.

But it begs the question, is there a similar thing that’s deemed more effective?

I was thinking of doing something quite similar for our summer trip.


Yes, but not in that price band. Something like this gives reasonable security, it can be opened but not quickly and not without skill and (expensive) tools, or possibly explosives!




I am not aware of any relatively cheap lockboxes which provides anything approximating acceptable security. There are cheap locks and there are good locks, but there is no such thing as a good cheap lock.
Post #941230 6th Feb 2022 12:12pm
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Magoyo



Member Since: 04 Feb 2022
Location: Buenos Aires
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Argentina 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
LR90XS2011 wrote:
that chassis is looking good for a 2009 when was the photo taken


yes, the chassis and all the truck is in very good condition, the photo was taken in december.
Post #941238 6th Feb 2022 1:04pm
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Magoyo



Member Since: 04 Feb 2022
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Argentina 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Dinnu wrote:
What a great idea... I have locked the keys inside my old 90 countless times Embarassed Seems like I could never learn... and always pushed the lock down and then closed the door... and oops.. may times with the keys still in the ignition Big Cry
Luckily my newer 90 is with central lock, so I lock through the remote.

i also have de plip control, but the second one i have it saved in the cubby box, only the key in the Lock box

Yes, that chassis looks like new. Guess no salty roads in Buenos Aires... and kept far from the Atlantic ocean.


exactly, no salty roads here and far from atlantaic. i have some mud every weekend, but i wash the chassis any time i could
Post #941239 6th Feb 2022 1:08pm
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Magoyo



Member Since: 04 Feb 2022
Location: Buenos Aires
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Argentina 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
blackwolf wrote:
Please be aware that those key boxes (that particular make) can be opened in seconds without damage if you know how to do it, you don't even need any tools. You can "read" the combination it has been set to undetectably and then open it any time you wish.

I would never under any circumstances leave a key for anything important in one.


oh Shocked
i supossed that the box wasn´t inviolable but no than easy thay you guys describe...
i will search it on web.
Anyway, i think the box is quite hidden, and most important, here in Buenos Aires, and all Argentina, many cars are stolen, but no Defenders. There are as few trucks here and are so striking that there are not the usual target of thievs.

thanks anyway ¡
Post #941241 6th Feb 2022 1:26pm
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Magoyo



Member Since: 04 Feb 2022
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Argentina 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
Leamreject wrote:
I suppose you need to know it’s there, and surely much better than the old magnetic key box pictured that wasn’t lockable.



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and if not we could put the key back in the classic location behind the light case, but I think that's too obvious now...
Post #941243 6th Feb 2022 1:30pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
My insurance does not cover theft of the vehicle if the key is left "in or on the vehicle". Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
Post #941267 6th Feb 2022 4:24pm
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west4x4



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My work van is fitted with slam locks so we keep a spare in one of these underneath in case the keys are ever locked inside.
Post #941337 6th Feb 2022 10:47pm
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macfrank



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Germany 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
blackwolf wrote:
Please be aware that those key boxes (that particular make) can be opened in seconds without damage if you know how to do it, you don't even need any tools. You can "read" the combination it has been set to undetectably and then open it any time you wish.


I was thinking "oh dear..." when I saw the picture. When we were kids, we used to make fun of picking number code bicycle locks in the school yard and changing the code or putting them on other bikes Embarassed Soo easy. Recently I saw a similar lock and they haven't changed much in decades...

Also I would hide any box away from mud and sight.
Post #941424 7th Feb 2022 5:32pm
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