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Ford Maverick pick up, £14,300 !
A brand new compact pick up, with hybrid engine, and a starting price of £14,300 at today's exchange rate. Shocked

Just after Ford announce the F150 Lighning, full size, all electric and 4wd, for £28,000. (39,900 USD)

There is something really wrong with the market in UK and Europe, when good sized practical vehicles can be bought for these prices in the US.
Who are we kidding when when we buy run of the mill SUVs for double the price?
We are being ripped off by all manufacturers, not even given the chance to buy the less expensive vehicles they make, or sold the same thing for substantially more.

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I think that the UK has just got itself into a PCP finance trap.

You want to buy a £30k car, get it on PCP, pay 50% then give it back before the warrantee runs out and not having to take out a further loan, with interest paying for a fast depreciating asset that’s worth less than the loan.

But then if you were going to spend £30k on a car but only paying for half then why not get a £60k car and only pay the £30 you originally budgeted for.

I know that this is a simplistic view but I think manufacturers have jumped on this and continued to move prices upwards.

In the US the majority buy the car from the dealer using specialist loans, not dealer finance so the car is theirs. US dealers also have a habit of pushing prices up over the ticket price if they can get away with it.

I be only had four Land Rover’s since 1994, I prefer to go second hand, pay out right and keep them as long as I can or wish to.

I have no wish to fall into the loan trap and have a vehicle I can’t use as I wish or modify to my requirements.
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I think US prices are generally quoted pre-tax, so that will push it up a bit.

This is based on the Bronco Sport, a car I thought would do very well in Europe as a sort of spiritual successor to the Freelander 2, but alas neither will be coming here. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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The US market tend to protect domestic manufacturers too, as many markets do to some extent. No import/export tariffs mean it's not really a level playing field.
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VAT & Import tax is what will greatly increase pricing. As does the fact that their market is LHD.

That being said, LHD to RHD and vice versa is often built into specs for easy cheaper production. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
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I like that, especially in that duck egg blue. A shame it’s not coming here.


EDIT - Just had a look on Fords website, the colour is called Area 51 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green
Gone - 23MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver
Gone - 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue, Fuji White roof.
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the only thing with imported stuff, or based for another market. ( ford probe springs to mind as an example) it can end up been a right pain in the arse for parts. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Aren’t most modern Fords now all the same as part of their “one Ford” strategy 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green
Gone - 23MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver
Gone - 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue, Fuji White roof.
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This Maverick (and the Bronco Sport sold in the US) share the same platform etc. as the Ford Kuga you can buy here. The Kuga is bland and uninteresting, the Bronco Sport and Maverick stand out as interesting fun products. I’m sure Ford have a reason for sticking with the Kuga in Europe instead of offering those, but it escapes me. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

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markb110 wrote:
I think that the UK has just got itself into a PCP finance trap.

You want to buy a £30k car, get it on PCP, pay 50% then give it back before the warrantee runs out and not having to take out a further loan, with interest paying for a fast depreciating asset that’s worth less than the loan.

Blah blah blah


What a complete load of b******* - the US market pioneered car finance and leasing.
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Bluest wrote:
This Maverick (and the Bronco Sport sold in the US) share the same platform etc. as the Ford Kuga you can buy here. The Kuga is bland and uninteresting, the Bronco Sport and Maverick stand out as interesting fun products. I’m sure Ford have a reason for sticking with the Kuga in Europe instead of offering those, but it escapes me.


It would tempt me away from LR if it were to be offered. 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green
Gone - 23MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver
Gone - 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue, Fuji White roof.
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Yes, the Bronco Sport is a perfect replacement for a Freelander2, and the Maverick looks fun and practical.
I'd buy ether one, but certainly not a boring Kuga.
Wake up Ford, you're missing out on sales!

...I've given up hope of JLR making something I want, ever again.
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Seems Ford are happy:

Jim Farley (@jimfarley98) Tweeted:
With Maverick, we reimagined what a truck could be. We wanted a small, capable truck people could adapt on their own.
After 1st full month of sales, we're seeing lots of younger & first-time buyers w/ +25% btwn 18-35 & majority of trade-ins switching from sedans & small SUVs. https://t.co/2eqPVXeyYD https://twitter.com/jimfarley98/status/1455889911391813637?s=20


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J77



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I do like that, in that colour too.

LR are missing a trick. Something like that based around the Disco Sport platform would sell. 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green
Gone - 23MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver
Gone - 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue, Fuji White roof.
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Mercedes have a similar colour, called China Blue


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