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SteveG



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When is a Range Rover not a Range Rover? - When it’s a…
When is a Range Rover not a Range Rover? - When it’s a Defender of course 🙄

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Philip



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Not sure it’s any surprise (and remember that the first Defender owed an awful lot to the classic Range Rover).
Post #921276 13th Sep 2021 1:09pm
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I’ve been expecting something like this, although I always imagined that it would be a Range Rover based on the 90 platform (ie a hark back to the two door Range Rover) and not a Defender based on the Range Rover platform.
Post #921318 13th Sep 2021 7:39pm
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Wont be long before JLR start employing bouncers on the door to keep us out with the words ' we don't want your sort here, your not invited'.

Jeez, you should see the looks i get at the local service centre when i am dropping the wife off to collect her Velar........

Oh well, it will keep the credit companies happy.
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Tim in Scotland



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JLR needs to concentrate on getting the build of the current cars 100% faultless before they start taking Defender any further upmarket. It’s already verging on too expensive for the dire QC - maybe they need to bring the production line back to Solihull where the management can keep an eye directly on build quality because I think they’ve all gone on holiday at Nitra.
It’s ludicrous that I now have the car in the workshop to cure a drivers door rattle that has been “fixed” to use the workshops technical term, 3 times previously but keeps returning Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Post #921359 13th Sep 2021 9:41pm
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Both BMW and Merc / AMG hav some shocking QC issues.......and for that matter Tesla also
Seems to go with the territory these days, maybe no-one complains about their 'new clothes'......... Whistle
Post #921360 13th Sep 2021 9:43pm
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J77



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The current new Defender is based on a modified Range Rover D7u platform.

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Post #921362 13th Sep 2021 10:05pm
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Supacat



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90 Dreamer wrote:
Both BMW and Merc / AMG hav some shocking QC issues.......and for that matter Tesla also
Seems to go with the territory these days, maybe no-one complains about their 'new clothes'......... Whistle

My experience is that the vehicles coming out of Tesla's China factory are a leap forward on previous offerings from the US. Whether that's the China effect or just general company wide learnings I'm less sure on.

SteveG wrote:
When is a Range Rover not a Range Rover? - When it’s a Defender of course 🙄

MLA platform was going to be common right across all models and then revised under the Reimagine plan

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Might as well say Land Rover will replace the Range Rover with a new Jaguar XJ based model...
Post #921541 15th Sep 2021 6:55am
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Surely all this talk of platforms is missing the point? LR and virtually every other manufacturer have always shared parts across their ranges. Shouldn't any angst really be about the fact that LR are developing a Defender to sit squarely in what has always been exclusively Range Rover territory in terms of spec. and pricing? Darren

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Post #921555 15th Sep 2021 8:41am
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Supacat



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Yes it does miss your point but does address the nonsense of saying a new Defender will be Range Rover based.

Defender is indeed moving into Range Rover territory in terms of spec and pricing but Range Rover is vacating that space and moving upwards itself; so there's logic there but also angst at what Defender has and will increasingly become and the pricing points this then generates.
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LandRoverAnorak



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I'm not sure that it's exclusively my point but ok. Darren

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That EMA BEV platform could be interesting with the compact ICE. Wonder if it’s a range extender setup? We had a BMW i3 REX when they came out it was a brilliant setup. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
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Post #921666 15th Sep 2021 10:01pm
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