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def_rs



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All LR sizes lack the Kevlar reinforcement.


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https://www.goodyear.eu/en_gb/consumer/tir...04457.html
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Philip



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Interesting - is that the same for the approved DuraTracs?
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Bluest



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My guess would be by omitting the the Kevlar feature they get an improvement in rolling resistance and/or dive-by noise. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Philip



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Yes, one or both. Maybe why DuraTracs are dealer-fit.
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Digger2000



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The Italian Land Rover experience guys have fitted Cooper stt pro’s on all of their defenders. That’s what’s going on my steels when they turn up.
Post #914537 28th Jul 2021 10:18pm
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SJM2018



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Aintree Green
The new bowler rally defender has KO2s fitted - looks like 265/65/r18.

Interesting they’ve not used their own 18in alloys; I know the 16in were the only “rally rated” (whatever that means), but thought the 18in were broadly as strong. 2011 CSW XS 90
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LandRoverAnorak



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The new Bowler does use their own 18 inch alloys. Their blurb claims that they're good for 1250kg each.


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 Darren

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SJM2018



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Aintree Green
Maybe they're a new design; definitely looks different, more metal between the splines:






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TopGear describes them as made by Borbet; who makes the original Bowlers? 2011 CSW XS 90
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LandRoverAnorak



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They're definitely a new design as the stud pattern for New Defenders is different from the originals. They're also definitely Bowler design though, and Borbet have always made their wheels. Darren

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brucehun



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Bluest wrote:
My guess would be by omitting the the Kevlar feature they get an improvement in rolling resistance and/or dive-by noise.


As far as I know the sidewalls were never Kevlar re-inforced, only the inside of the tread has kevlar on smaller sizes.
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Supacat



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PART II


And Part III looks like it should be interesting...


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stng110



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I’m a bit confused. do the Duratrac Wrangler off road tyres that are an option (not the all-terrain version) have Kevlar side walls? I’ve gone with 19” wheel.
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zilch



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Quote:
I’m a bit confused. do the Duratrac Wrangler off road tyres that are an option (not the all-terrain version) have Kevlar side walls? I’ve gone with 19” wheel.


a few reports on the FB groups as well as Tim on here on how easy the duratrac sidewalls seem to
be sliced as well.. so not just the Adventure AT's. Now enquiring through a Land Rover specialist
in Sydney to change my rear calipers and get them to certify they are up to spec for insurance purposes
so i can move to 18". If you have a P300/D200/D250 on order, i would strongly recommend going 18"
rather than 19", Censored all tyre choice in the 19" format if you are doing any outback touring or
off roading, far more choice in the 20" format if you have a P400/D300 yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
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stng110



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I have a D300, so 18” not an option. the 19” wheels seemed to cross Namibia ok. Let me know hoe you get on with the caliber change.
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stng110 wrote:
I’m a bit confused. do the Duratrac Wrangler off road tyres that are an option (not the all-terrain version) have Kevlar side walls? I’ve gone with 19” wheel.


No kevlar in the sidewalls, only the inner lining.
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