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kenzle8a



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You had one job snorkel...
Noticed an odd stain running down the wing this morning, a bit of faff and a few scraped knuckles later (the worst design ever IMO) i got the snorkel off (Safari TD5).

I got the Defender with it already on, but the foam seal had failed, and i found this...

Suggestions for a better one on a post card, while i patch up the holes on the wing...


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blackwolf



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That sort of water ingress in largely inevitable if you use a cheap RAI without an adequate cyclonic prefilter at the intake point. Unless you've been wading it is likely that that has been inhaled as atmospheric moisture (rain etc), and only a decent cyclonic prefilter will stop that.

Further, the standard pipework from wing to airbox is notoriously awful, very restrictive, and also notoriously leaky.

Your best option is to fit a quality induction system such as those from Nuggetstuff and/or Nakatanenga.
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kenzle8a



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Its impressive as the cars not moved for two months while I’ve I’ve working on a load of bits...

But very much agreed on all you’re points.
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Is there any evidence of water in the air filter box?

if not this could just be ingress of rain whilst sat. If you've had half the weather we had here in north wales you wouldn't be surprised... The other possibility is driving in rain with the scoop facing forward, might as well stick a hose down your air intake Wink

This problem combined with the safari snorkel not fitting a roll cage is why I swapped to a PandP snorkel: http://www.ppcages.com/accessories/land-rover/snorkels/

Then made a wing manifold so there will never be a problem with a foam gasket failing.
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blackwolf



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One thing to bear in mind is that if you are running with a standard un-modified air box then this sort of volume of moisture will be spun out by the cyclone in the box entry orifice.

If, on the other hand, you've modified your airbox to remove this handy but restrictive device, you will end up with all the moisture in your (paper) air filter element, and that is where your serious trouble can begin.

I have never understood the enthusiasm with which people remove the cyclone from the air box but without then fitting a quality cyclonic prefilter.
Post #902893 13th May 2021 5:33pm
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kenzle8a



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My intake was standard, I pulled the whole lot out to check it over and clean it out as the pipes from the snorkel weren't as well sealed as once they should have been.

I've not hacked it up yet, however I'm leaning towards a better snorkel with a pre-cleaner, the PP Cages diy kit looks good and ive ordered some ducting to make a nice run to the airbox from the wing.
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kenzle8a



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Re-engineering part 1, featuring an Amazon cooker extractor hood which with a 4’ outlet it’s pretty much the perfect size.



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Test fit


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Mark some holes on cardboard


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Fantastic Smile I ended up fabricating one, this is much easier. Thumbs Up
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kenzle8a



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Cheers, part two is nearly done, working out intake options and looking at the diy snorkel kit.
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Matt110



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geobloke wrote:
Is there any evidence of water in the air filter box?

if not this could just be ingress of rain whilst sat. If you've had half the weather we had here in north wales you wouldn't be surprised... The other possibility is driving in rain with the scoop facing forward, might as well stick a hose down your air intake Wink

This problem combined with the safari snorkel not fitting a roll cage is why I swapped to a PandP snorkel: http://www.ppcages.com/accessories/land-rover/snorkels/

Then made a wing manifold so there will never be a problem with a foam gasket failing.


That looks really good. Can I ask how much it was from PP or do they come from resellers?
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kenzle8a



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I got a quote off then this morning, working out the setup inside then will probably order one.



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Matt110



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Wondering if it'd fit with a safety devices cage.

Looks better than the safety devices equivalent.

Good choice I reckon that'll look great. Thumbs Up
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geobloke



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Wondering if it'd fit with a safety devices cage.

Looks better than the safety devices equivalent.

Good choice I reckon that'll look great. Thumbs Up


Matt110 the answer is yes they do and the reason I have one fitted to my Defender. Give me a moment and I will post some pictures for you to see.

Plus... the prices have gone up or is my LR purchase memory working just fine Rolling Eyes Whistle
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geobloke



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Matt110 wrote:
Wondering if it'd fit with a safety devices cage.

Looks better than the safety devices equivalent.

Good choice I reckon that'll look great. Thumbs Up


Here you go: https://www.defender2.net/forum/post903292.html#903292 Thumbs Up
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Matt110



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Superb. Thanks for taking the time to send the thread etc. That really does look good. Like the way you attached too. I spy one of those ridiculously disproportionately expensive safety devices cage attachment blocks I winced when I purchased my own ones of Rolling with laughter

Will definitely put that down as snorkel of choice though.

Look forward to seeing yours lord-haggis Thumbs Up
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