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rangra

Member Since: 21 Mar 2009
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 78

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Fuel problem

Hi,
Looking on here recently, it is obvious that lots of people have had problems with the fuel tank breather proble m (and so they have water in the fuel tank). However, we took our puma Defender back into the dealer today to have this problem resolved.

After telling the dealer we bought our car in September, he was suprised that it hadn't had the issue corrected already. It turns out that this dealer (Ottons Salisbury and maybe others) have been correcting the problem since June before handing cars over to the customer.

Unfortunately the dealer where we bought our car hadn't bothered to do this (totally useless).

So, if your Puma seems to have problems with the fuel breather, get a fuel sample. It looks like (according to the technical service bulletin from LR) that if there is less that 40cc of water in the fuel, it doesn't need thebreather relocating. The car just needs a new fuel pressure sensor and in some cases a new fuel pressure relief valve and pressure metering valve. LAND ROVER DEFENDER 110 XS SW 2.4

24th Mar 2009 7:50pm

Tony_Hillerby

Member Since: 03 Feb 2008
Location: Inverurie
Posts: 36

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Santorini Black

Beware that even though my breather was relocated I still got water back in the tank again this winter, tank drained, new filter and a couple of parts changed on the fuel system.
I asked the dealer what LR were going to do as I did not want this constantly happening, LR reply was that the Mod had been done so its all OK.
So even though the Tech Bulletin had been done its not completely fixed it.

24th Mar 2009 9:58pm

nicks

Member Since: 21 Aug 2008
Location: south coast
Posts: 469

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Alaska White

ottons salisbury put the fuel mod on mine in august (original pipe had snapped) not had any trouble since...fingers crossed

25th Mar 2009 9:21am

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2109

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Mine still have the original configuration (not problem until now)
In your experience with the dealers: Do you know if this breather relocation is mandatory or you must ask for it or maybe is only modified if the problem appears?

Thanks Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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25th Mar 2009 1:19pm

rangra

Member Since: 21 Mar 2009
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 78

Eduardo wrote:
Mine still have the original configuration (not problem until now)
In your experience with the dealers: Do you know if this breather relocation is mandatory or you must ask for it or maybe is only modified if the problem appears?

Thanks

Hi Eduardo,

I'm not sure if it is mandatory for the dealers to change the breather location before sale, but one dealer did do this before selling their cars.

But they will definetely modify it if you need to have it modified.

25th Mar 2009 1:38pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2266

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

In rainy UK and elsewhere, the problem seems to be water ingress; here it is dust (amaizignly a lot in the cargo area). I guess mine wasn`t undersealed Puma 110" SW

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25th Mar 2009 3:44pm

CapeLandy

Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 558

still wondering

I am slightly in the same boat but problem is I took my own sample from the filter with about 50cc of water.
No engine light or obviose faults as yet.
Can I take the sample to the dealer and get them to check out and clean the tank and check the commonrail or would he question my taking the sample based on a warning from this forum?

Would 50cc make it into the injectors and have caused nozzle damage?

James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong

25th Mar 2009 10:40pm

dm_td5

Member Since: 20 Jul 2008
Location: Arnhem Land
Posts: 609

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver

From about 3000km mine has had an extended hose on the fuel breather line (goes up behind the indicators). The most water I've got out when checking the filter would be less than 1/4 of a teaspoon or about 5ml and that was after at least another 3000km. (or about 6 months). 110 2.4TDCi
110 300Tdi

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26th Mar 2009 7:35am

Bundubasher

Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Sandton
Posts: 34

Hi MK. I have the same problem as you. Sometimes there is so much dust that my cargo area looks like the Atacama Desert. One time I had the aircon on recirculate. I think that might have caused a low pressure in the cabin. There were two small holes in the body work where the diesel filler cap is attached to the body and also a gap where the brake and tail light wires enter the bodywork behind the rear speakers. I siliconed them so now I must test the dust proofing again.

Is it possible that some of the water in the diesel problems could be as a result of water in the diesel tanks of the service stations and not only from the breather pipes?

Also those of you who find 40 - 50 cc of water in the diesel filter. I am under the impression that our diesel tanks have stand pipes in them. If that is so then there must be a lot of water in the diesel tank if you are finding so much water in the filter.

Cheers
Anthony

26th Mar 2009 8:13am

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2109

Well,

Also for us the dust inside the cabin is a headache. My wife went the last weekend to the south (very dry there) and the defender come back with at least 2 kg of dust inside (in the seats, the dash, the floor and anywhere). I will take at least 1 complete day to clean it ...

Definitely defender is not dust proof !

My main concern about the breathing is that we ussully travel to the south during winter (quite rainy) and we do not like to have problems with water in the tank.

Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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26th Mar 2009 3:11pm

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