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casher

Member Since: 17 Sep 2010
Location: Glos
Posts: 58

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey

LED amber lights

I want some led flashing lights and was wondering if any body has used these ones before?

http://beaconline.co.uk/products/prodpages/vigiled/vigiled.html

http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/led-strobes-...0_196.html

13th Sep 2011 10:07pm

Bobble

Member Since: 21 Aug 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 223

"Want" or "need"?
Not entirely legal to fit strobes (even amber ones) to any old truck.

13th Sep 2011 10:23pm

casher

Member Since: 17 Sep 2010
Location: Glos
Posts: 58

i thought orange ones were fine? i think i could arguee i need them

13th Sep 2011 10:33pm

Bobble

Member Since: 21 Aug 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 223

It depends how, when and why you employ them, and if Plod see you doing it or not, AND if they then take offence, which is a lot of "ifs".
The Road Traffic Act Lighting Regs bit gives a list of approved vehicles and, in a nutshell, ambers are only meant to be fitted to farm vehicles, oversize loads, vehicles used in highways maintenance and approved recovery/road-side assistance vehicles.
Urban myth tells of Sir Jimmy Saville's fight to have a beacon fitted to an Isetta bubble car as he was fed up of being cut up in London. The upshot was he set up his own break-down company (on paper) and registered the Isetta to it, just to get approval to have the light fitted.

13th Sep 2011 10:56pm

Mike_B

Member Since: 23 Jan 2011
Location: Moray
Posts: 550

The VigiLED ones aren't too bad. they're bright, but can be susceptible to water ingress. They end of getting condensation on the inside of the lens.

These are pretty good-

http://www.emergencyequipmentshop.co.uk/su...p-127.html

Plus, they're only about 9mm thick.. Most of these LED modules are about 25mm thick.

13th Sep 2011 11:49pm

casher

Member Since: 17 Sep 2010
Location: Glos
Posts: 58

i think i will be fine! and its only illegal till you get caught...

cool, i might go for some of those vigi ones

14th Sep 2011 8:12pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

No law in the land stopping you having them fitted.

Use is another thing, for example:

(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

14th Sep 2011 9:44pm

Bobble

Member Since: 21 Aug 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 223

pom wrote:
No law in the land stopping you having them fitted.

Use is another thing, for example:

(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;

Thass wot I sed.

......

Bobble wrote:
It depends how, when and why you employ them

14th Sep 2011 11:10pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

casher wrote:
i think i will be fine! and its only illegal till you get caught...

cool, i might go for some of those vigi ones

I've got some enormous American sealed beam rotating beacons - why not fit one or two of those too?

Steve.
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15th Sep 2011 10:32am

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2127

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

The members of the 4x4 response teams are asked to fit amber flasher/beacons .. but I've never had to use them in a 'real' situation ...

There is a similar issue with rear work lights ... cant remember the exact wording ...

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15th Sep 2011 12:47pm

twopoint6khz

Member Since: 18 Aug 2011
Location: North Lakes
Posts: 655

If you only use work lights 'off-highway' then I don't see how it can be illegal. S'up to you innit? Guess the same is true of amber beacons. I think plod might take a dim view if you used it to skip down the outside of traffic when you were late for your tea.... not that that's what they do of course

15th Sep 2011 12:53pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

I think you would need blue beacons to skip anywhere in a hurry and even then many people don't notice as they are so oblivious of what's going on around them. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
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15th Sep 2011 2:20pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17735

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

A work light can only be used on the public highway or a place to which the RTA applies (including of course green lanes) if it is used in conjunction with an amber beacon or strobes. It is completely illegal under any circumstances to use a worklight, or any white light with an equivalent wattage greater that 21W, as a reversing light.

That being said, the chances of being 'done' for it are fairly small.

15th Sep 2011 3:52pm

adafish

Member Since: 30 Mar 2009
Location: atherstone
Posts: 1387

1984 Defender 110 300 Tdi DCPU Stornoway Grey

Re: LED amber lights

casher wrote:
I want some led flashing lights and was wondering if any body has used these ones before?

http://www.mobilecentre.co.uk/led-strobes-...0_196.html

....Yep, we sell loads of these..Totally water proof and once you have the "box" you can has many Strobe lights you desire... Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..

20th Sep 2011 9:57pm

noworries4x4

Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Newton Abbot Devon
Posts: 1195

I have got these fitted front and rear, not the cheapest but four years of service no issues and they are bloody bright you can't say you did not see me when i am escorting cranes or stationary closing roads
http://www.premierhazard.co.uk/directional_lighting.html If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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20th Sep 2011 11:20pm

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