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Having one at least every week here ~ I'm trying to see them as a bonus ~ no bad thing when you re~discover something that piques an interest. Very Happy
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General Motors to build new US Army vehicle
General Motors has secured a contract with the US Army to build their new Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV). It's based on the Chevrolet Colorado and fitted with 2.8 turbo diesel with six speed auto box.
I think it looks awesome.


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Old news discomog. Supacat already on the case :

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic73169.html
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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic73169.html?highlight=isv

Ooops - but looks like I was too slow this time Laughing


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It's such a cracking looking vehicle, I think it's worthy of a double post. Thumbs Up

Also, bound to pick up a few more comments.
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Mad Max. Ones to mind Rolling with laughter
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Was it designed to star in a Hollywood movie?
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Looks like it might leak worse than a Land Rover..........
awfully posh seats for a bunch of squaddies too, they must be recruiting them soft in the US. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Military seats do seem to get some money invested into them - same the civilian market doesn't seem to have caught up to what is available once you get past leather...

Seat option I'd want in a Grenadier:


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from this:


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^^^ That's more what I had in mind when the New Defender was announced all those years ago! Thumbs Up
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Interesting to see following evaluation, what the problems with it were:

Assessment

• Based on performance demonstrated in STP2 and DT, the
ISV provides enhanced off-road mobility capability and
enables infantry units to be less predictable in their movement
necessary to accomplish airborne; air assault; offensive; and
engagement, security cooperation, and deterrence (ESD)
missions. The ISV expands a light infantry unit’s area of
operations. Squads equipped with ISVs accomplished nine
movement tasks consisting of 50 miles each during the STP2.
All ISVs were capable of carrying a nine-soldier infantry
squad with their personal weapons and equipment during
movement.

• The ISV has not demonstrated the capability to carry the
required mission equipment, supplies, and water for a unit to
sustain itself to cover a range of 300 miles within a 72-hour
period. The lack of internal space to carry soldiers with
their rucksacks in seats, mission-essential equipment, and
sustainment loads may create a logistics and operational
burden. This limits the type and duration of missions for
which an ISV may be effective. Units operating for long
duration will need to conduct mission planning, cross-level
equipment across the unit, or may require additional ISVs to
sustain operations.

• The Army did not conduct airborne, air assault, offense,
defense, and ESD missions during the STP2. All ISVs have
the capability for internal transport by C-17 and CH-47F in
support of airborne missions. Based on DT, all ISVs meet the
weight and dimension requirements to fit inside a C-17 and
CH-47F, and meet the 5,000-pound weight limit to permit
sling loading with CH-47F and UH-60 helicopters. The Army
plans to test and evaluate the ability of an ISV-equipped unit to
accomplish these missions during IOT&E.

• Units equipped with ISVs lack reliable communication
capability using hand-held radios and manpack radios over
the distances of 62 to 300 miles required to accomplish
missions. The ISV does not have a requirement for a mounted
communication capability. During the STP2, each squad
depended on their squad radios while employing ISVs.
Communication between the squad leader, soldiers, and the
platoon leader was intermittent and not reliable.

• General Motors Defense ISV demonstrated the highest
reliability amongst the three vendors in DT. The General
Motors Defense ISV demonstrated a 585 mean miles between
operational mission failure (MMBOMF) versus the user
requirement of 1,200 MMBOMF.

• All vendors’ ISVs are cramped and soldiers cannot reach,
stow, and secure equipment as needed, degrading and slowing
mission operations. During the STP2, soldiers on all ISVs
could not readily access items in their rucksacks without
stopping the movement, dismounting, and removing their
rucksacks from the vehicle.

• The ISV does not have an underbody and ballistic survivability
requirement. The ISV-equipped unit will be susceptible
to enemy threats and actions. All ISVs have some design
features to reduce a unit’s vulnerability to enemy detection
such as speed, and a small, low profile design that minimize
their visual detectability. In order for the ISV-equipped
unit to avoid threats and traverse terrain that is covered and
concealed, the ISV will give up some of its inherent speed
advantage.

Recommendation
1. The Army should develop a plan to address
recommendations identified in the DOT&E MS C OA
before initial production of the ISV.


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Wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers had to publish an equivalent to MMBOMF.
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I think they get on well with them in Oz?

Now apparently coming to the UK:

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2021-is...54463.html

Also seems this was the pick of the bunch from some quite decent competition...
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Hadn't realised they've followed the pack and thrown a battery in it:

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GM Defense (@GMDefense) Tweeted:
Happy to host Tactical Air and Land Forces Subcommittee Chairman @DonaldNorcross & Staff from the #HASC at @GM's Global Battery Systems Lab today. We shared our military electrification pathway & let Mr. Norcross take our All-Electric Military Concept Vehicle for a spin! #wearegm https://t.co/QKRMqyGFLU https://twitter.com/GMDefense/status/1423007671179939847?s=20

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