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Bucko



Member Since: 21 Nov 2016
Location: West Yorkshire
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England 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Aftermarket Alarm?
I already have numerous security precautions in place, layers of deterrents to hopefully make the would be thief think again about helping themselves to my pride and joy.

But, a recent theft of a family members landrover from outside his house has brought this issue closer to home and made me re-consider whether the level of security is enough.

I’ve been pondering a tracker for some time but ideally I would like to prevent the theft in the first place, so what about an additional aftermarket alarm? My only experience of aftermarket alarms were back in the day, on a 90’s hot hatch and it was a nightmare, nothing but trouble.

Are they any better now? I would hope so. Any recommendations or thoughts? Tracker or alarm? Maybe both.

I know this topic has probably been discussed to death, but as security is a major concern and there’s the constant worry of undesirables snooping about, it’s surely worth bringing the subject up again.
Post #862931 21st Oct 2020 9:37pm
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rockster57



Member Since: 15 Nov 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Here’s my take on alarms Bucko...

The more security layers, the better. A conventional aftermarket alarm is a useful addition but only if you are within earshot and are able to respond. I grabbed this next paragraph from an alarm website as it sums up the issue perfectly....

Traditional car alarms rely on other people to care about your car as much as you do. The sad reality is that people have grown numb to these noisy cries for help due to the sheer number of false alarms they hear every single day. The ones that do take notice simply don’t want to get involved.“

As you might already have guessed from this advertising blurb that these days car alarms are available which will alert your phone to an activation wherever you are (as long as you have a signal). You’ll pay more for this but for some it will be a valuable feature and justified expense.

Anyone going out to steal a Defender will know what to do to disable the factory alarm. Plenty of information on the forum on ways to protect it from tampering but being the cautious type, I feel it makes sense to also add an aftermarket alarm too.

Another thing to bear in mind is that an alarm only sounds once something has happened. It might save your vehicle from being stolen but that “something” will mean you will still have expense and inconvenience. One way to lessen this risk is to let the potential thief know there is an additional security measure in place. Some car alarm fitters place subtle window stickers which indicate an additional alarm is present (without advertising what make it is). The thief is then faced with an “unknown” and this may be enough to deter him and make him look for another vehicle.

Alarms have moved on from the 90’s. Go for a Thatcham approved system and you’ll get something reliable and worthwhile.

ps Your 110 looks the business! Awesome
Post #863284 23rd Oct 2020 10:11pm
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Joel



Member Since: 18 Oct 2020
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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Santorini Black
My advice, go and talk to a specialist.

My defender currently has a generic aftermarket alarm system on it. It’s ok, but I worry about the effectiveness and the ease of disabling.

I went to a local audio / alarm place that had good recommendations, they actually have a bespoke package for alarm and tracker specifically for the defender. I have a truckman style cab on the back of my DCPU and that presents some additional challenges. They were really experienced and were able to give me some real good advice and have enough experience to be able to bury an alarm and tracker even in something like a defender where it’s not so easy.

They also gave good advice on what other physical security to add on.

It’s not going to be cheap ~900 plus the subscription for the tracker, but that includes having the tracker linked to the alarm, and the more difficult protections for the cab on the pickup. In my view, it’s a small cost to protect your pride and joy
Post #863292 23rd Oct 2020 11:14pm
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Back in late 90s, early 2000s when car security wasn’t as good as today and aftermarket alarms/immobilisers were a big thing, I had a few because my insurers would insist on a “Cat 1” alarm or whatever. The trouble was the fitting quality wasn’t always as good as it should have been and I suffered from more than a few glitches due to poor wiring. That’s a long way of saying make sure whatever you get is installed properly with decent splices etc. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #863311 24th Oct 2020 10:02am
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Bucko



Member Since: 21 Nov 2016
Location: West Yorkshire
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England 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Appreciate your thoughts, thanks.

I will be investigating a complete alarm/tracker installation, but as mentioned I think the most important factor is how well the installation in carried out and how well the tracker is hidden away. I’ve found a couple of places to visit and discuss my needs with.

rockster57, that quote does indeed sum up car alarms completely. How many times do you hear a car alarm going off and nobody bats an eye lid. I do generally have a glance over but it does make you wonder how much of a deterrent they really are. I like the idea of proximity sensors to warn off any undesirables approaching the vehicle, I’d like to think that once the would be thief has been alerted to the fact that there is additional security, they’d leave it alone and go find an easier target.
PS thanks for your kind comments about my 110, I think it’s awesome but I am biased
Post #863506 25th Oct 2020 7:36pm
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