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Andy RV



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Adding additional alarm plunger switches to TDCI
Hello,

I’d like to add a couple of additional ‘bonnet’ alarm switches to my Puma to trigger the alarm if the headlight surrounds are removed. My plan is to make a loom up to fit between the male & female plugs for the standard bonnet alarm then add additional switches from there.

Will this work? Are the switches normally open or normally closed?

Thanks
Andy
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Andy RV



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Just tested the bonnet switch, it’s normally open... so wiring this up in series should work?
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Can’t see why not, not a bad idea thinking about it.
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They need to be in parallel. In series they would all need to be triggered to close the circuit.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Not sure if I understand this right, but Andy RV tested the switch and stated it is NO. That means, when the bonnet is in its closed position, the circuit is closed (which is how it should be for an alarm system). If circuit must be closed to to be ok, then all switches have to be in series so if anyone is open, the whole circuit is open. Or I am missing something? 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Andy RV



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Dinnu, that’s my non-electrician understanding of it! When the bonnet is closed it compresses the switch providing continuity for the circuit. A break in the continuity is what triggers the alarm.

I’ve ordered the parts so I’ll see how I get on. I’ll need to make some brackets up to secure the switches.
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For all the doors it's closed door = open circuit. The switches connect to ground, when open.
Is it really different for the bonnet?

Or just buy this one
https://www.landroverdefendersecurity.com/...r-defender
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Andy RV



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Just had my switches delivered, they’re normally closed, not open! Not sure how I managed that when I tested the one in-situ in the engine bay... Parallel circuit it is!
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If you ordered a genuine LR switch you will not have to manufacture a bracket as there is an existing mounting hole on the opposite side of the bulkhead, the pin switch just clips in. Defender 90XS SW
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macfrank



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Andy RV wrote:
Just had my switches delivered, they’re normally closed, not open! Not sure how I managed that when I tested the one in-situ in the engine bay... Parallel circuit it is!

Thumbs Up So, same as for doors.
It IS confusing, though, when you open the normally closed bonnet, you close a normally closed switch by not pressing it to trigger the alarm... Shocked Laughing
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Andy RV



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I’ve made the loom up and and it works perfectly, just need to sort the brackets out and it will be ready.

I presume the perfectly sized apertures beneath the headlights were originally designed for small headlight wipers?

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Nobody knows what those holes are for, the Defender headlight washers don't fit them. I suspect they were for something that never materialised.
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