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Mo Murphy



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Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
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United Kingdom 1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Pennine Grey
Put a wanted ad for an old 300 tdi EGR, fit some vacuum hoses on it and trail them off somewhere out of sight. Go for MOT. Pass. Go home, remove EGR valve and place on shelf in garage. 2021, remove 2 bolts and blanking plate, refit EGR valve, hide ends of vacuum tube. MOT.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.
Post #853622 1st Sep 2020 3:35pm
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zippo87



Member Since: 29 Mar 2019
Location: Moray
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Scotland 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
Rolling with laughter
Post #853625 1st Sep 2020 3:44pm
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
When the missus got a 05 D3 the first thing I did was to undo the EGR pipe connector and put a put a 2 pence piece in to block the pipe work both sides until I got the blanking kit from Pete Bell.

Simple times

Good luck
Post #853639 1st Sep 2020 4:47pm
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zippo87



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Location: Moray
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Scotland 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
Just had a chat with my main man - seems that everything will be “sorted” - he was fairly open minded that there wasn’t solid data either way, we spoke about the old exhaust, and I offered to take it round for him - but he wasn’t happy about that 😂. Seems it was a new tester and not him that carried out the mot.
Post #853642 1st Sep 2020 4:56pm
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htb2



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Scotland 
My P reg just passed today, no egr or cat ever fitted. 26,000 miles
Post #853689 1st Sep 2020 7:51pm
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donmacn



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sako243 wrote:
Not all - some of the very very early 300Tdis didn't have an EGR, mine hasn't had one fitted from factory.


I can't quote Ed and DorsetSmith in the same post on my iPad (well, maybe I can but it would take forever).

My car was a low line 'poverty' spec 110 SW. A 1994 vehicle, so I assume one of the early 300s. No EGR or CAT. I didn't own it till about 2002 so it's possible that an EGR and CAT were removed before then, but unlikely given that it was a corporate owner.

On the other hand it has a chassis number beginning with MA943*** Confused, me? Yes. Never, ever had the question even sniffed at during MOT testing.

Meanwhile, in another realm, when ordering a new wiring loom with autosparks, my VIN number caused them a lot of confusion, insisting their system showed a 1996MY vehicle, on a 200Tdi.....

I do wonder how accurate some of this information was originally, and how much has since got confused through the mists of time.

None of which helps the OP I'm afraid.... except that MOTs in Inverness might be easier?? Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #853711 1st Sep 2020 8:42pm
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htb2



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Thought having MOT's, Tax and running on white diesel meant you were posh north of Inverness. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Post #853715 1st Sep 2020 8:56pm
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sako243



Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
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Wales 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
donmacn wrote:
sako243 wrote:
Not all - some of the very very early 300Tdis didn't have an EGR, mine hasn't had one fitted from factory.


I can't quote Ed and DorsetSmith in the same post on my iPad (well, maybe I can but it would take forever).

My car was a low line 'poverty' spec 110 SW. A 1994 vehicle, so I assume one of the early 300s. No EGR or CAT. I didn't own it till about 2002 so it's possible that an EGR and CAT were removed before then, but unlikely given that it was a corporate owner.

On the other hand it has a chassis number beginning with MA943*** Confused, me? Yes. Never, ever had the question even sniffed at during MOT testing.

Meanwhile, in another realm, when ordering a new wiring loom with autosparks, my VIN number caused them a lot of confusion, insisting their system showed a 1996MY vehicle, on a 200Tdi.....

I do wonder how accurate some of this information was originally, and how much has since got confused through the mists of time.

None of which helps the OP I'm afraid.... except that MOTs in Inverness might be easier??

Mine was a CSW originally 94 I think. Again a corporate owner from new and I think I was the third owner, the second simply kept it serviced well and in immaculate condition (unlike the current 12+ year owner). From memory my VIN is MA962... Never had issues (well with EGR) on my MOTs but I am in wild west Wales now...

I wouldn't hold much by the accuracy of various systems. According to the V5 my second vehicle is a twin axle 109" with a 5.7l diesel in it, um....

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 Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi
Post #853718 1st Sep 2020 9:09pm
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Blackhat90



Member Since: 31 Dec 2016
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Scotland 1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Epsom Green
mY 1995 300 Is standard ,no cat or EGR, go to proper land rover garage. the guy"s a dick,
Post #854129 3rd Sep 2020 8:09pm
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zippo87



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Scotland 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
All became good in the end and I got my ticket!! Thumbs Up Cheers for taking part in the drama!! Look forward to next years haha.
Post #854214 4th Sep 2020 10:39am
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
All this talk about chassis and engine numbers being wrong for the type of vehicle remind me of the Austin/Rover Montego I owned many many years ago.

The registration document showed it as a 1.5L basic Montego when in fact it had a 2.5L MG engine with MG trim but without the MG badges. I hadn't even bothered to check the engine size and had insured it as described on the document and sold by the garage. It was only after a person backed into the vehicle did the truth come to light when the insurance co had it inspected, first thing to happen was insurance voided, followed by vehicle being impounded, then me starting legal proceedings against the garage that sold it, they in turn worked very quickly to produce the build sheet which showed that the vehicle was an end of the basic model and the run in to the MG model and was supposed to have the 1.5L but had infact had the 2.5L MG engine fitted no wonder it was like the what's it off a stick. So somebody who thought they had a 2.5L MG engine had infact got a 1.5L engine. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
Post #854381 5th Sep 2020 9:16am
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gethim73



Member Since: 11 Jul 2017
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1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Orkney Grey
zippo87 wrote:
All became good in the end and I got my ticket!! Thumbs Up Cheers for taking part in the drama!! Look forward to next years haha.

Check your engine number. 16L had no EGR and were usually pre 1996MY. 23L had EGR 1996MY onwards.
Post #856770 18th Sep 2020 11:45pm
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AT1963



Member Since: 08 Jul 2020
Location: Leicestershire
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 Black LE Java Black
I re-instated my EGR due to conflicting pro/cons of blanking it.
Also, as is the case with old diesels we have to be very careful as the emissions from our vehicles will be scrutinised along side the environmental bods demands for EVs any opportunity to get a car off the road so to speak would be taken. So, my EGR is back on and now i don't fall foul of MOT regulations or insurance not backing me if i had an accident with a modified car!!
Food for thought.
Post #857437 22nd Sep 2020 2:48pm
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custom90



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United Kingdom 
You’ve probably lessened your MPG, decreased your power and created more emmisions doing that than it was before as it’s more efficient and with a tune it brings the fuelling efficiency much more up to a high standard. Couple that with using a fuel additive I’d say they are worse out the factory than with a few mods as it improves efficiency and fuelling characteristics.
Except CAT removal, I think that certainly isn’t a good thing.. Diesels Lives Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️
And if You Love the Country, then we’re on the same side ~
I got’ love for Britain, I got’ British pride’. 🇬🇧
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Tim in Scotland



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My 1996 TDi 300 had them removed sometime round about 2004 and the only thing that has ever come up on an MOT was that I had fitted LED running lights all round with no visible CE mark, never any comment about the cat and EGR not being there. Over the years it’s been MOT’d at 4 or 5 different garages, a main dealer and at Budget Tyres (now part of KwikFit)
It was done again 3 weeks ago at the village garage who are Landy Indies. I was told when the gear was removed that at build it wasn’t a legally required piece of kit but that changed not long after mine was built. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #857451 22nd Sep 2020 4:01pm
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