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The Zee



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Salisbury Plain Training Area (SPTA) Awareness Update July
Being a regular user of SPTA, both personally, and professionally, I thought it might be a good idea to have a post where forum users could “check in” to see what issues and hazards are current on SPTA prior to venturing onto the Plain…

So here we go:

It’s been very dry on SPTA (and the south of England) over the last 4 months, this makes parts of the Plain ripe for grass fires – please take obvious precautions.

There are currently tadpoles in some of the water filled tracks: please check them prior to driving through them, tadpoles and other animals don’t like being squished.

Ticks, there is a high tick risk on SPTA at this time, be especially wary of long grass, and wooded areas. Ticks carry several diseases including Lymes, and TBE (Tick Borne Encephalitis) I can attest to the former of those since I’m now on Doxycycline for the next 3 weeks. Shocked https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/lyme-disease/

Also the SPTA newsletter can be found here : https://www.gov.uk/government/publications...newsletter , A useful read to ensure your safety on SPTA with contact number for Plainwatch and MOD police.

I’ll try and update as regulary as I can (Monthly?)

-- UPDATE JULY 2020---

Even though SPTA is looking green with the rain we have had, it is still very dry in the undergrowth - there is currently a Level 5 (highest) grass/brush fire warning in place.

Please take care, and be aware of fire risks, be aware that campfires and BBQ’s are not permitted on SPTA, If seen please contact Plainwach (01980 674700) or the MOD Police (01371 584444) (24 hour) - theses are also usefull number to have on your phone even if venturing out on to SPTA.

The rain that we have had has resulted in the finer silt, and clay being washed off the very dry trackways and byways that criss cross the area, this has exposed more of the larger rockier maternal – punctures are more likely, and keeping to the 30 MPH limit is more important to prevent stone damage to your or following vehicles, and to prevent further erosion. Zaid-M
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Post #834880 2nd Jun 2020 10:20pm
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Matt110



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Great idea and thanks for the info. I'd love to come down but have always been concerned that despite being a very cautious navigator and always checking trailwise2 and the OS maps before driving anywhere, i'd stray somewhere i wasn't meant to be unintentionally. On the other side of the coin i prefer doing navigation myself so trips can be leisurely rather than dashing through with an organised paid for tour.

Are there any typical routes that people have taken/recommended areas or runs through?
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Thon



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Adding to the OP above, it's very straightforward to navigate on the Plain - most rights of way are well signposted and Wiltshire County Council has an easily-accessible rights of way map. Just make sure you learn the definitions of those routes that have vehicular access. It's amazing how many bikes and "off-roaders" I see on restricted byways. All of the danger areas are mapped, most fenced-off, gated, flagged and lit so it's quite straightforward to stay safe. There's a blanket 30 mph speed limit across the SPTA too. Lots more official presence from Range Control and Police now too, which is great for those using the area legitimately but be on the lookout for eejits racing uninsured, unregistered motocross bikes in dangerous places - I see them virtually every time I am out. Also remember that all buildings and plantations are out of bounds to the general public for good reason, and don't pick anything up!

I've been out on the Plain daily during the lockdown and it's been a godsend - very privileged to have it on my doorstep.


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There was a huge influx of arses this sunday just gone. Now apparently the ModPlod have stepped up patrols and stopping people out there at odd hours.
Naturally if you're just laning and all legal, nothing to worry about.


https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/article/61...eLtaYt191M
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There was a huge influx of arses this Sunday just gone


Happening all over the country in part due to this


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Hi Guys n gals,

Not haivng used the plains for a few years, would anyone that does, and nows them well be up for an guided tour for a couple of us sometime please?

Pretty flexible on days during the week, for a few hours - been on a couple of meet ups that have been good fun and done responsibly (Diesel Jim / BP Man et al).

There are a few Def's in the area that have not been used as intedned and they'd like to have a sensible outing.

Not looking to bog down, get flooded or take home half the plains. but day out, and have some 4x4 fun.

Anyone got a spare day and fancy some liquid remuneration ........

Si TY&GN
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I don't know if BP man leads runs anymore Question
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Eye in the Sky: drones at Salisbury Plain
Good story.

"The Training Safety Marshals (TSMs) recently took delivery of ten DJI Mavic 2 Enterprise drones, more properly known as Unmanned Air Systems (UAS), for use on the training area. They can be used in a number of ways to help us in our duties to maintain a “Safe Place” for the Armed Forces to train. "

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https://www.suasnews.com/2020/08/eye-in-th...ury-plain/
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The Civ police have had the drones for quite a while now. And I think they've nabbed quite a few of the idiots out there.

good job too!
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I don't think BP Man even owns a Defender now - he was buying / had bought a Porsche when I saw him last, which must have been 2 years ago.

I stand to be corrected though.

If you're looking for a guided tour there's a guy on FB that runs them most Sundays for a charity donation - Salisbury Plain 4x4 Wiltshire byways, run by Paul Carter. He runs a tight ship and is meticulous in his route preparation.
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^^^^ So he claims.... Whistle
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He did still have his white 110 at the time which was up for sale but not sure of the outcome. I haven't seen him since - was only there to buy an under-cubby box.
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I meant the chap who does the SPTA tours....
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I meant the chap who does the SPTA tours....
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He's well known by the range wardens (every week he meets at least one of them) and certainly on the east side of the plain he is on legitimate rights of way from the pictures I see. Obviously I can't be sure of every track he goes on as I don't go on his tours. He also bans group members that request recovery from out of bounds areas. We're in dialogue with him as we also suffer unauthorised access in our shoot area - seems like a reasonable guy? You seem to have a contrary opinion?
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