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discomog



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Disappointing Sales of Luxury Pickup
Just spotted this interesting snippet in Farmers Weekly.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/4x4s/merce...Ue-cqwosRc Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S
Morgan Plus 8
Post #834261 30th May 2020 3:57pm
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lohr500



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I don't know how the purchase and servicing prices compared to the equivalent Navara on which it was based, but I can imagine there would be a chunky premium on both for the privilege of having a three pointed star on the grille.
Post #834265 30th May 2020 4:03pm
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Bluest



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It was a cynical badge engineering job that customers saw through from a mile away. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #834273 30th May 2020 5:10pm
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andydef90



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the roofer we use has one of these you can see its a Nissan makeover a nice machine but at extra cost
Post #834605 1st Jun 2020 3:17pm
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lohr500



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I did some more digging and discovered Merc made a few changes so it could cope with their largest engine. Disk brakes all round, changes to the suspension geometry/anti-roll bars and some extra chassis strengthening. But basically still a Nissan, albeit with a Merc dashboard and a few tweaks.
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90 Dreamer



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Do they still snap the chassis in half or was that the earlier version??
Post #834653 1st Jun 2020 6:08pm
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gcc130



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I think that might be the L200
Post #834654 1st Jun 2020 6:15pm
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90 Dreamer



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Thought it was the Nissans as it affected both the pick-ups and the Pathfinder SUV on the same chassis??

Just googled and looks like the slightly earlier version
https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/adv...d-chassis/
Post #834657 1st Jun 2020 6:41pm
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blackwolf



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It was the Navara D40 that used to break in half. The D22 before it was prone to catastrophic engine failures. I'm unaware of any similar bad habits with the Mitsubishi L200 trucks.
Post #834662 1st Jun 2020 7:16pm
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miker



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lohr500 wrote:
I did some more digging and discovered Merc made a few changes so it could cope with their largest engine. Disk brakes all round, changes to the suspension geometry/anti-roll bars and some extra chassis strengthening. But basically still a Nissan, albeit with a Merc dashboard and a few tweaks.


Interesting how the most backwards piece of farm engineering (defender) has had disks all round for years...
Post #834713 1st Jun 2020 10:23pm
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Huttopia



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A friend (in his 70s) down in Pembrokeshire has one of these. It has spent a great deal of time at the dealership with electrical gremlins - most often a complete failure to open / start / come to life. I only mention his age because he also has an electronic garage door on a blipper, poor eyesight and a raging temper. He spent some long time swearing at the Merc for not opening, without realising he was trying to open it with the garage door blipper. Laughing
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Supacat



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Looks like someone still thinks there a market for them:


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https://www.carscoops.com/2020/07/this-mer...ilderness/
Post #842237 7th Jul 2020 5:55am
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