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Steve H



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Santorini Black
2015 Puma now on 2nd failed ignition Barrel
Wise Ones..

I have read here and other sites about failed ignition barrels, but not so much on a new-ish and very low mileage truck.
I had my local chap, fit a new Ignition Barrel and matching doors locks just a few weeks ago, after the old barrel became a nightmare, of taking 5 minutes of wiggling, the key and shouting to get the motor started.
The New Barrel was fine for a couple of weeks, but has deteriorated in just a coupe of days to the point that its now worse then before, and I'm afraid to take it out
Obviously I have to take it back to the garage and they should be able to get the genuine part replaced under warranty, but that not going to cover the labour, that I am going to have to shell out for again no doubt.

Before we fit the 3rd barrel on a <25K Mile motor, is there anything else I should be considering, I have tried graphite power on the first barrel to no noticeable effect, and the result was and is the same with both keys.

Any thoughts ?
Post #797530 10th Oct 2019 8:54am
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Defender Singh



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Thumbs Up Try using graphite lock lubricant,it’s a dry lubricant that lock smiths use.
Put the powder in using the nozzle usually attached then insert the key a few times to make sure it gets
Into the lock thoroughly.
Don’t use oil or liquid in any of your locks. Don’t Follow me you might not make it!
Post #797539 10th Oct 2019 10:41am
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rallysteve



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green
Do you have a large bunch of keys on the same keyring?

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Post #797540 10th Oct 2019 10:51am
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macfrank



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Germany 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Quote:
Do you have a large bunch of keys on the same keyring?


Exactly what I though having just watched this
https://youtu.be/dnDwnDgehHE?t=780
(follow-up to https://youtu.be/V7_7YmkZc5o?t=61)
Post #797542 10th Oct 2019 11:16am
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
rallysteve wrote:
Do you have a large bunch of keys on the same keyring?

Steve


That! I have key and immobilised fob and that’s it for this reason.
Post #797556 10th Oct 2019 1:33pm
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Steve H



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Santorini Black
Hi all,
No it was just the immobiliser fob and the filler cap key.
The garage has replaced it, so now on my 3rd, lets see how long this one lasts.

Thanks for the tips, I did try graphite power etc when my first on failed (obviously didn't make any difference), so didn't waste any time when the 2nd one started to pack up.

I was just wandering if anyone else with late model Defenders was having similar problems, but I guess its just bad luck as its certainly not being abused.

Cheers all
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Mike_E



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Aintree Green
I had my 2015 done under warranty at 3yrs old and 35k miles. Replacement hanging in there...

Also only have the key and fob on the key ring... all other keys separate.

Mike
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Steve H



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Santorini Black
Hey Mike,
Its quite ridiculous that is necessary to consider how many keys you have on your key ring isn't it, (unless your a prison warden).
The internals must be made of chocolate...Its little things like this that threaten to ruin my extended Honeymoon period :@)
Post #798927 21st Oct 2019 1:58pm
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Mike_E



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Aintree Green
Yep.

I love my 90, love the character it has, great towing and offroad but it am under no illusions it's a piece of crap at the same time!

They had to deliberately engineer it to be this bad... it cant be down to chance. Haha.

Being an aussie I am used to 80 series landcruisers and GU patrols. Just unbreakable.... but bloody hell they are boring. That said I'll take boring when you are 500miles from tarmac....
Post #798944 21st Oct 2019 4:32pm
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Bluericky



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green
I’m not sure exactly what your symptoms are but if it’s simply failing to start on the turn of the key then it’s probably not the barrel but the ignition switch that is a hopeless plastic lump attached to the end. It’s not particularly expensive and certainly a lot cheaper than replacing barrel , lock and keys .
I replaced mine after it failed to start several times , turning the key also felt notchy . https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/
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diesel_jim



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Did you mechanic fit a genuine part, or a blue box part?
Post #798990 22nd Oct 2019 7:07am
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mick



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I’m on my third set Rolling Eyes I do a fair bit of off & on though in a day
Post #799114 22nd Oct 2019 11:37pm
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Marks Landy



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United Kingdom 1985 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Java Black
Evening All,

Do you centre the steering wheel before removing the ignition key?

I noticed my ignition key sticks and is a pain to get out once the power steering fluid pressure dissipates.

Found the keeping the steering wheel dead centre off loads the key.


Mark
Post #800626 3rd Nov 2019 7:47pm
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