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Jas Ardis



Member Since: 28 Jun 2018
Location: Salisbury
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Auto Stornoway Grey
Spare wheel upstairs ...

Folks,
My apologies if this is covered elsewhere, I’ve looked and looked and haven’t found an existing conversation on this topic.
Basically, I have a roof rack and I think it’d be better to store the spare wheel on top of the truck rather than on the back door, blocking an already Censored poor view of what’s behind me.
What’s a good way of fixing it? What downsides are there? Keen to learn from others’ experiences.

Cheers!
Jas

Post #768595 14th Apr 2019 7:21pm
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Grouse



Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
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I did this - just used a back door wheel carrier bolted flat to the Brownchurch Roof Rack using some self fabricated brackets and a load of M12 high tensile bolts.

Getting the tyre up there can be difficult - I just lifted onto bonnet then literally rolled it up the bonnet and then the windscreen onto the roof

Post #768610 14th Apr 2019 8:19pm
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Sulisuli



Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

What type size wheel are you putting up there? It’s alot of weight on top of the roof and may well affect the handling your use to with your defender. Being a sewage diver at least I know how deep the 💩 will be at work today.
2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90

Post #768611 14th Apr 2019 8:24pm
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green

Hi Jas

Someone here will give to the answer in regards to securing the wheel to the roof rack but for my two pence I would say first stand next to your Landy and lift the spare wheel above your head to try to get it onto the rack.

The wheel and tyre (depending what you have) is very heavy. if you feel that you could end up hurting yourself then I would leave it on the rear door. I tend to use my mirrors for rear visibility more than the rear view mirror.

Its not worth putting your back out and having trouble for years to come.

Regards

Mark

Post #768612 14th Apr 2019 8:24pm
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miker



Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red

Mine's up there as I have no carrier on the rear door. It is a heavy lump to get up there, I tend to use a strap to pull it up, and slide it up and down the back ladder. Currently held on by a couple of ratchet straps and a beefy chain, will I procrastinate about something more permanent or putting it on the back again!

Post #768636 15th Apr 2019 12:32am
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UtilityTruck



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As other have said the issue really is weight. Getting the wheel up there and back down safely is a problem, you’re putting something in the region of 50kg on your roof rack.

Adding the weight of the wheel to that of the average defender roof rack you’re not far off the roof load limit- so essentially you then cannot use your rack to carry anything else, safely, with the wheel up there. 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2

Post #768642 15th Apr 2019 6:19am
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VVS210



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+1 for using door mirrors, stick to the rear door mounting.

Post #768644 15th Apr 2019 6:49am
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue

I have trouble lifting mine onto the supplied carrier never mind trying to get it on the roof. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard

Post #768656 15th Apr 2019 10:17am
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Arc99 - What you need is one of these https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic66984.html Thumbs Up 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

Post #768666 15th Apr 2019 12:58pm
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RoddyK05



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Scotland 2004 Defender 90 Td5 SW Yellow

Jas,
I did exactly what Grouse said above. I need to put mine up there at the start of the towing season as I can’t hook the caravan up with the wheel on the door. Yes, lifting it above your head can test some people, but I’m tall and still young Whistle so it’s not a struggle. Carriers pop up on here from time to time and range from “free to uplift” to HOW MUCH Shocked It’s certainly solved my problem and I wouldn’t say it handles greatly differently in my day to day usage, but I’m not a fast driver and am usually steady through bends etc.

Post #768667 15th Apr 2019 1:28pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

If I'm towing I will often carry the Defender's spare (Blindo) and a standard steel spare for the trailer on the roof rack. I stand on the tailgate to lift them up, and to get them off I'll stand on the rack and lower on a rope.

The standard rear door mounting works fine on the rack (Patriot) or use a ratchet strap.

Post #768706 15th Apr 2019 6:01pm
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Bluericky



Member Since: 26 Jun 2014
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

Likewise , I store mine on the roof rack. It’s really not a problem lifting it on or off , I wouldn’t say I was even all that strong . I suppose it depends how much of a habit you make of getting a puncture .
Hannibal make a dedicated spare wheel mount for their racks , I imagine it would also fit many others .

The only major drawback is that you’re reducing your access height by even more and you’ll no longer get into those height restricted outdoor car parks !

In terms of handling it really makes very little difference but then it would depend on your suspension set up , mines a 110 DC with standard HD rear springs but uprated dampers https://www.instagram.com/hustynminepark/

Post #768713 15th Apr 2019 7:05pm
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michaelwl



Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
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South Africa 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Alpine White

When I go on a "real" off road trip I take 2 spares. One is on a carrier at the rear, effectively the same as the standard position, the other is on the roof rack mounted on a standard rear door spare wheel carrier. As others have said the issue with the roof rack mounted spare is the weight, if you only need one spare I would seriously consider whether it is worth putting it on the roof. 2002 110 TD5 White
1981 S3 R6 Matt Green - Now used as game viewer
2013 Discovery 4 XS

Post #768783 16th Apr 2019 7:29am
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue

Bluest wrote:
Arc99 - What you need is one of these https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic66984.html Thumbs Up


and the Mantec carrier Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard

Post #768796 16th Apr 2019 9:40am
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Jas Ardis



Member Since: 28 Jun 2018
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 37

United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Auto Stornoway Grey

All,
Thank you very much for your replies - you’ve provided me, and others, with excellent experience and advice. I didn’t expect a ‘one size fits all’ answer, and it’s interesting to see different people’s takes on the feasibility of a roof mounted spare. I shan’t rule it in or out, but when I get back from Cornwall I will do the lift test and see if that red cards the idea!
I had thought about the C of G issue, but my brain hadn’t reached the obvious issue of (even worse) height clearance. I already have a whip aerial on the 110, and I’m aware of the limitations this introduces (though it’s easy to unscrew).

Mucho grateful!
😊
Jas

Post #768856 16th Apr 2019 6:46pm
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