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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
I like it this way - much better departure angle Thumbs Up --
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Post #765129 24th Mar 2019 10:51am
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
I understand why they have done it, but I still think it looks wrong.

Maybe I'm just dreaming/fantasising it might have some tiny crumb of the real deal incorporated into it... 2011 110 USW
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Post #765135 24th Mar 2019 11:13am
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
22900013A wrote:
The LWB *desperately* needs a longer rear overhang to look right.

I do wonder though if JLR are playing a big joke on us all and this actually the Discovery 6 or some other new model, but not the Defender.


Thats my concern if thats the 110 its going to have a very small boot or the placement of the rear 'axle' is making it look like its got a small boot. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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Slideywindows



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22900013A wrote:

I do wonder though if JLR are playing a big joke on us all and this actually the Discovery 6 or some other new model, but not the Defender.


I too, have suggested this ^.

Their covert "Defender" testing has been a little too "un-covert" to make sense.


Time will tell.....
Post #765141 24th Mar 2019 12:17pm
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Huttopia



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It is all generating pre launch publicity for nothing so it won’t stop anytime soon! They have revealed enough to get people to part with cash for deposits without a known spec- a good trick if you can do it.

The pics still look to me like a mini Disco 4, which would be cool.
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Yep all part of the marketing plan. #Best4x4 on the side, a few laps of the Nurburgring all to generate interest. And why not, it's an extremely cheap way of creating awareness. Folks lap it up, especially in the media and on sites like this.
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
That square looking test vehicle with it’s stickering has nothing to do with the real new Defender, let alone the D6. It is a ploy to mislead all of us, and testing of the real new Defender is done in places nobody would imagine.
For designing and cobbling together this fake news Defender we now frequently see pictures and movies of, JLR have employed Jeremy Clarkson for the design, and the Hamster to cobble it together. Looks much like their below masterpiece.
Eric
 You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Dobby wrote:
o4dn wrote:
Besides, the whole market is going electric. There are still lots of opportunities there. Could’ve been great to have seen JLR doing something unique there.


I was at my dealers last week and they confirmed there will be a fully electric BEV version after launch. He know's I'm going BEV so it keen to keep me on marque as it where, lest I run off the Tesla X or Jaaaaag ipace.

As soon as the goverment announces the end of life for Diesel engines we can expect the @rse to drop out of the resale value of DERVs.

Remember the Model T Ford essentially killed the 'Horse' market in less than ten years.. after centuries of horse ownership.


Might be reading too much into this, but it does suggest that the Defender will not be a BEV:


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NoDo$h



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Certainly the 2020 model isn't mooted for it. Given the replacement cycle and launch date, the next Defender on the BEV compatible platform is off the chart for "future", while next gen Disco is notionally only 4 years away. 

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SN



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so too far away to care about at this time I would say! Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
So BEV Defender is back on the table...what is going on at JLR, they seem to have made and unmade this decision more than a few times?

"Meanwhile, the planned range-topping Defender Sport is in the early stages of its development, according to insiders. It’s expected to be the first pure-electric Defender family spin-off and is based on the new MLA architecture.

It will be a much more luxurious interpretation of the new model, with the kind of fixtures and fittings to rival the new Aston Martin DBX and the entry-level versions of the Bentley Bentayga, as well as being pure electric.

The aim is not only to help further reduce Land Rover’s fleet CO2 in time for even tougher 2025 regulations but also to produce a much more authentic and distinctive eco-friendly vehicle for the most upmarket car buyers.

One bonus is that it’s thought, thanks to the ultra-fine controllability of electric motors, the Defender Sport will still be as exceptionally capable off road as Land Rover’s current crop of models. However, it’ll be significantly more road-focused than the standard Defender."

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...o-defender
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