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doublea



Member Since: 12 Jul 2011
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 494

Scotland 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Adventure Phoenix Orange
DSC-off wrote:
In the coming years I think we're likely to see road tax rise for all diesel and petrol vehicles that aren't up to certain emission standards.
This is the easiest way for the government to 'encourage' drivers to move to cleaner engines or EVs.
I'd love to be proven wrong on this.


Was watching a rather smart looking Toyota hybrid parking next to me the other day, half expecting the smug driver to comment on my dinosaur transport. Preparing my retort along the lines of "my son will still be driving this in 40 years time, about 30 years after yours has gone to the great scrapyard in the sky". However, he wasn't smug and had no interest in my fantastic transport. I began thinking about the death of my landie, which I predict will come with the exponential increase in fuel duty, partly to offset falling revenue from drivers switching to alternative vehicles and partly to "encourage" dirty diesels off the road. Then began thinking about retro fitting a 300tdi so I could run on chip fat....

Road tax is a small proportion of annual running costs. But I have to admit, it was a factor in my decision to buy a utility wagon back in 2009. Station wagons were close to £500 even back then.

With the digital age, road tax should really be scrapped. There is no longer any need for an independant third party annual check of insurance and MoT. A small increase in fuel duty combined with savings made on the bureaucracy would make up any shortfall and also result in heavy users of inefficient vehicles (ie the polluter) pay more. Wait a minute, that's us! Current Steeds:
2015 110 UW in Grasmere Green
2003 BMW F650 the Hack
2000 Elise
1992 Ducati 888 (no longer in bits, yahoo)
1990 TDR 250 (in bits again)
1988 TDR 250 (no longer in bits) and for sale
Post #763526 14th Mar 2019 9:43pm
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seriesonenut



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Location: Essex
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Come the great day when I hand the keys to my USW to my son (or he prises them out of my cold dead hands) hopefully he will be retro fitting some whizzy electric motor conversion kit.

I have seen some very nice conversions done to Classic Range Rovers at megabucks but eventually the prices will come down so hopefully my truck will rumble on like a milk float into the mid Century...... Thumbs Up 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
Post #763527 14th Mar 2019 9:53pm
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Mike c



Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Maldon, Essex
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England 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
As above, I hope that electric conversions become reasonably affordable if we have to lose the combustion engine. We can then at least still drive our Land Rovers in the future Thumbs Up
Post #763573 15th Mar 2019 10:19am
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
I think it is more likely that road tax/fuel duty will morph into road pricing, where you'll pay for how far you drive to make up the shortfall in fuel duty. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #763589 15th Mar 2019 11:38am
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Stacey007



Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
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My 2.4 is £500 or £540 cannot remember Rolling with laughter


My previous larger engined Merc Estate was half this, however I would have lost a LOT MORE in depreciation had I kept the Merc.


Also Modifying and driving the Truck imho I'm ok with the TAX


To off set it the Series 3 is Exempt so really it averages out over the two, mmmmm Using this logic I NEED another Series with a V8 so each one I buy the overall tax is lower Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter


Man maths Thumbs Up
Post #763593 15th Mar 2019 11:45am
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Merlin



Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
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My 2008 110 CSW:

Mass in service 2075 Kg
Taxation class Disabled.
Vehicle category M1

So is this a passenger vehicle?

Peter
Post #763629 15th Mar 2019 2:44pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
smb wrote:
My 2010 110” 2.4
V5C states:
Body type...Estate
Vehicle category...N1
Taxation Class...Light Goods Vehicle
Registered.....30-07-2010
Was told at purchase to be one of the first to be in the lower Tax rate. How true I don’t know, but maybe others have older ones with low tax


11my from 10jul 10knwards all were classed n1. Up to that point ht, dc , pu were lower tax, and sw were higher tax Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
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andydef90



Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
I try not to think about the cost my 90 takes over the year what with warranty service road tax and the little extras even before I move the thing . but I love it makes me smile
Very Happy
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Merlin



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You are right about the running costs, someone said to me today that I must be wealthy if I can drive one of those, I would be, I said, if it didn't keep breaking down. Peter
Post #764173 18th Mar 2019 4:57pm
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