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Mr.Tom



Member Since: 09 Dec 2015
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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Alpine White
Cheap AT Tyre Recommendations
Hi

New to Defenders , picked up a 200tdi 1989 model today. Got a bit of TLC to do, but need to change the tyres. Looking for a cheap AT tyre (some road, green lane and pay & play sites) covering about 3-5k miles per year (if that - its not a daily drive).

I've seen some Hifly with an AT tread, but very little reviews available for them. I've also seen some Kingpin (but perhaps a bit to aggressive and therefore loose out on wet roads)

Any recommendations for cheap (well south of £100 per corner) AT tyres? Looking for 235-70-16

(and yes, I appreciate you get what you pay for, four small patches of rubber in contact with the ground etc. - I could go AT2 or AT3 route).
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lukev01



Member Since: 24 Mar 2012
Location: Bedfordshire
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England 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Have you considered Insa Turbos?

The Special tracks are extreme but others are pretty much AT tyres. 1970 Series 2A 88"
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Mr.Tom



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Alpine White
Yes, was looking, its difficult to tell from the pictures which ones would be appropriate (some seem to have a very aggressive tread patter) but I have seen the Ranger and Dakkar.

I think I prefer the Ranger.

I've heard of Insa as well, as opposed to Torque, Hifly and a range of others who on face value are cheap and look OK, but always make me wonder...
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Devon-Rover



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green
As you have a defender you might as well go up to 235/85R16 tyre size, you are at a disadvantage thinking of running the smaller 235/70R16.

If you are not using it daily then consider the trade off and go for a MT style pattern for less road manners you gain in the off-road ability when you do venture off tarmac.
The extreme style pattern is an option but road manners will suffer to the large part.

A good AT at the budget end is the GT radial seen plenty of them about and heard no horror stories. https://www.4x4tyres.co.uk/235-85-16-gt-ra...=24,59,66, There is far cheaper ones on the market but I haven't heard of them to give feedback.


if you want a MT then the remould insa turbo Dakar https://www.4x4tyres.co.uk/235-85-16-insa-...=24,59,66,
it is the old BFG mud pattern and does a grand job in the mud. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest
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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Insa Turbo Rangers are pretty good; I had a set on a 110 some years ago. They are the same pattern as the original BFG AT. Darren

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Post #685936 11th Feb 2018 11:42pm
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Mr.Tom



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Alpine White
Thanks, I will look at the slightly higher profile as well, it’s interesting it push the prices up by20%, but I guess you’re paying for more rubber! It does mean I’d need to get 5 as opposed to 4 tyres as well though as the spare would need to match!

(The spare looks in good condition and is an AT style stream pattern from an unknown manufacturer, but it’s 235,70,16)
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Vogler



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Belgium 2015 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
Difference might also be in the sidewall. I'm happy with my AT's, only reason that would make me go MT is the fact that (in this case) they have a triple layer sidewall instead of double so they can take some more punishment.

Greetings and enjoy your new defender! During the first years of ownership I was always short for cash to sort things out, but it's my biggest joy.

Joris
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plumpmoose



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Love my conti cross contact ats.
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MadTom



Member Since: 10 Sep 2013
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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
I had twice some Insa AT tyres - remanufactured. I'll not do this again, as I had a big problem with them - sidewall cracking, leading to replacement of tires with more than enough rubber. The life time of these tires were too short. On the other hand I have some Truck 2000 style remanufactured tires with extra strong sidewall, and these are good, but very heavy. So for me - heavy remanufactured MT OK with heavy duty sidewalls, remanufactured AT - never again.
The sidewall cracking on the inside wall of tire is not easy to check - you need to go under the car.
BFG AT were usable for more than 10 years. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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Mr.Tom



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Alpine White
Thanks for this, I’ve been looking again and might well order the Insa but MT Style...
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Fat Cog



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
These Toys Open Country MT's are a lot of a bargain & Protyre usually have a promo code £15 off two etc. Ive used these tyres & in the states they're a high price quality tyre, they're also very civilised on the road for a MT, similar in ride & feel to Goodyear Wrangler MTR's

https://www.protyre.co.uk/tyres/van-tyres/.../120/P/all Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Recently the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure won in a tyre shootout in ZA: https://www.tyrepress.com/2017/06/first-ty...adventure/


Quote:
This is an all-terrain test and that’s why the Goodyear Adventure really impressed us,” concluded Drive Out magazine. “It not only won the tar road braking test but was also the joint winner for the dirt road braking test, together with the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S. And with the sidewall penetration test it was also not far behind the tough-as-nails BF Goodrich. In addition, the new Goodyear also has Kevlar, a material used for bulletproof vests, in the tread. That’s why we believe this Goodyear is a worthy winner of our all-terrain shootout.”



At almost 60% of the price of a BFG AT KO2, it makes a lot of sense, and I'm planning to fit these soon Thumbs Up --
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Mr.Tom



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Alpine White
Booked in next Wednesday to get insa turbo rangers put on. The MT tyre was more expensive, so I’ve not gone that route this year, but am going for the 235/85/16 tyre
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