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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3623   
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Forgot to say, nice write up gilarion
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20th Sep 2017 7:56pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3623
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Very impressive, Retroanaconda
I used to do that kind of thing (but in Excel format) for my company cars (I claimed a rate per mile and as long as there was a difference between what I got paid and how much the car cost to run per mile, I had won) It was a few years back, but I seem to remember with a euro box, the way that I drove made a shed load more difference than where I filled up. As I said in a previous post, my fill ups were mostly Sainsbury's, sometimes Asda and sometimes Tesco mainly because of price per litre, and location of filling station. My mate drove a four axel Daf tipper. The company he worked for had so many diesel thefts that they removed the tanks and gave the drivers agency cards. For a good while, they all squeezed the truck into Tesco's and pocketed the Tesco's Clubcard points. Very profitable. It didn't last forever and in the end they refused to take the Clubcards. |
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20th Sep 2017 8:50pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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I nearly allways fill from my local Sainsburys mainly due to cost and convenience. I've pretty much bought most of the diesel from the same place for the past 8 years and just over 100K miles. I'm sure that if I spent more on a premium fuel on a named forecourt then I might get an odd mile or two per gallon but with mud tyres, permanent weight and more often than not short journeys I don't think it would really be noticable.
It was interesting to note that the old girl managed over 28mpg trundling to Peterborough and back dragging my Sankey loaded with all the stuff required when camping with a group, gazebo, firepit etc etc. One thing that I believe that is in my favour is that there is a huge turnover of fuel sold through the particular Sainsburys so the fuel is allways fresh. A couple of years ago after a run of easily 7 months of using the same pump I called into another breed of supermarket forecourt, put £40 in of their standard fuel and 6 miles down the road I began to get fuelling problems. Got home and pulled the pump out of the tank of my Td5 and what was dripping off the pump resembled thin sump oil! It was black and was very "gloopy". I had a troublesome couple of days getting it through the pump and vowed never to use that particular garage again! What I'm trying to say is that yes, our Defenders will run on supermarket fuels it's your own choice on what you want to pay. |
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20th Sep 2017 9:36pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Thanks 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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20th Sep 2017 9:45pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Thanks 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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20th Sep 2017 9:46pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Retroanaconda... That is interesting
1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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20th Sep 2017 9:49pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1784 
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Over the last 5 years I've done 70k in a vag diesel, 20k in the td5 defender, and about 10k in my van with the ford 2.2 engine.
Fuel is sourced from wherever is convenient and or cheap, supermarket and BP/shell, and I can't say I've ever noticed a difference! Also never found any nastiness in fuel filters to support issues with any fuel. |
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20th Sep 2017 10:15pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2666 
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You may also consider the "Social Impact". Supermarkets are great at trashing family businesses (i.e. emptying the high street).
In my Dad's village, an Asda opened. As usual it killed a couple of smaller shops... However after a few years, they opened a pharmacy. The pharmacy which had been there longer than anyone remembers (family business) went bust, jobs lost. Asda realized the profits were not as big as they would like. They closed the Asda pharmacy. Now the village has no Pharmacy at all. B@stards. The coin you spend is more important than the vote you cast for central govt sometimes... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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21st Sep 2017 9:56am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20919
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"The coin you spend is more important than the vote you cast for central govt sometimes..."
Very true, removal of funds from what you don't like or believe in had the biggest effect. ____\We|Will|Win/___ ____/π¬π§πΊπΈ\____ _//*β½οΈπ’οΈβοΈπ§°*\\_ |
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21st Sep 2017 12:06pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5132  
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I have a 500ML bottle that I fill from the can, though its a pig to fill. For me a Large can works as I have a Narrow Boat as well as two Defenders. The Narrow Boat eats diesel especially if I run the engine at night for heat and electric, the Leisure batteries do not last that long particularly if we are using the boat in the winter. Fortunately I am allowed to use Red diesel in the boat. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 Last edited by gilarion on 21st Sep 2017 1:49pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Sep 2017 1:39pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 
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86,000 miles in 12 years on whatever's cheapest.
No ill effects so far.  |
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21st Sep 2017 1:48pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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There are Millions of Transits and Mondeos running around on what ever old diesel the driver could find with little or no ill effects.
I personally buy branded fuel, i used to run my mini on Tesco Petrol, but i was suffering from the engine stalling as to came to a stop, filled up at a branded station once and the stalling hasn't happened since, and a very noticable improvement in performance. I didn't think much of it at the time as it was just a filling station en route, but i certainly noticed a performance improvement, which made me give it more thought as to why - the change in fuel was the only variable. There's nothing really wrong with Supermarket fuel for the most part, it exceeds the minimum standards, although it's likely the oil companies save their latest additive packages for their own fuel. The thing is though supermarket fuel isn't normally cheaper, as all the filling stations do price matching to within a given radius (normally 3 miles). So if you have a Shell, BP or Esso filling station within 3 miles of a Supermarket, the fuel will be the same price anyway. Sometimes you'll find a particular car will run better on say BP than Esso or vice versa. It's the additive package that makes the difference, as the basic fuel all comes from the same tanks and pipes at the depot/refinery. The additives are added when the fuel is loaded into the road tanker. |
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21st Sep 2017 2:37pm |
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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110 
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I've had a bad tank of diesel before, ironically it was from Shell and it was their premium line. My Td5 ran rough and didn't start well.
Normally I run my diesels on Morrisons fuel as its litterally a stones throw from my place of work, I use forte products to maintain the fueling system. 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW 1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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21st Sep 2017 3:17pm |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Yorkshire Dales Posts: 693 
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There is variability in the base fuel, they all will meet the BSEN standards etc but all standards have tolerances (i.e. Every criteria has a range), diesel (gas oil) can be from atmospheric or vacuum distillation of crude oil or from a cracked feed stock. Diesel and kerosene specs overlap and depending upon demand for Jet A1 (holiday season) the amount of Kero in diesel can vary. There are differences in blends between winter and summer. And most importantly the amount of bio diesel blended in and the type of bio diesel varies significantly, the bio addition is done at the road loading terminal and is specific to individual customer specification (significant tax implications).
And yes then the additives, detergents, anti waxing .... etc vary Then the driving style of the driver varies, traffic varies, load being carried varies, tyres vary ..... 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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21st Sep 2017 4:07pm |
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