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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6040   
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I have run with and without bars. my current 110 has them front & back.
If your dampers and springs are all standard length, then you'll not gain a huge amount in axle travel by ditching the rollbars, maybe an inch or so, but you'll lose some road manners. Ok, they handle fine without the bars, but they handle a little bit better with them. |
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18th Nov 2013 8:58am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2597  
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You will experience more body roll when cornering on the road.
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18th Nov 2013 9:08am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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if your off roading and have anti roll bars fitted then if one wheel gets pushed up a lot or then arb will be trying to lift other wheel taking weight off the ground losing grip . same if one wheel drops in hole that wheel will not drop with same force pushing down on it , so yes will be worse for off roading /better on road.. but with standard bars fitted to be honest most of us it would make a bit of difference but enough to worry about ?
serious off roaders will know more on here also there is a company that make arbs you can disconnect one side from other to have best of both worlds |
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18th Nov 2013 9:24am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1567 
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You can fit an x deflex anti roll bar. These you disconnect to go off road.
To get serious gains you would need to overhaul the suspension. |
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18th Nov 2013 9:55am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16894 
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Given that many Defenders don't have anti-roll bars fitted at all, although as far as I know the rest of the suspension components (springs and dampers) are the same, removing them is unlikely to be an issue. How significant the off-road performance gain is likely to be is debatable.
My 110 doesn't have them and body roll is quite acceptable. If your rear suspension has a Boge strut (self levelling thingy) you would probably be ill-advised to remove the ARB since you will experience much more body roll. |
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18th Nov 2013 10:24am |
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| Landie Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: WA Posts: 22  
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Removed my rear one only and it made track driving less harsh
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15th Apr 2017 12:07am |
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| Mountain_man Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Right side of Offas Dyke Posts: 756 
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Leave them well alone and fit a rear locking diff. Unless you spend say more than 50% of your driving in terrain where you are likely to be lifting wheels constantly.
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15th Apr 2017 9:25am |
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| 300TDi CSW Phil Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Bracknell Posts: 746 
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Well said re the Boge unit Blackwolf as the rear springs on these were ludicrously soft. However, if you still have a Boge unit fitted make sure it's working, they are getting on a bit now and most have failed. To my knowledge there are none left for sale new either anymore.
I ended up with TD5 springs and its removal when in failed and was actually a better ride. 1995 300 Tdi Epsom Green - It's a keeper. Wide Track Sankey- In bits- Gone to a new home M0XQS |
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15th Apr 2017 9:41am |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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My 90 doesn't have them and also my Camel Discovery didn't have them. And if one car is top have it is a Camel discovery. OK you could corner it like a 2CV but it never fell over.
 Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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