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warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Santorini Black

Lack of Lights

Big Black is throwing her toys out of the pram again...

On my way back from North Yorkshire and put the lights on as it was starting to get dark. Get's a bit darker and I thought the lights didn't seem to be lighting up all that much. Turns out only the sidelights are working.

Put the side lights on and the dull dip-dim lights come on as normal, but put dipped beam on and they go out again. High beam works as normal.

LRA coming out tomorrow morning to have a gander.

20th Feb 2011 8:18pm

noworries4x4

Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Newton Abbot Devon
Posts: 1195

That will be the light stalk contacts burnt out and melted i have had 2 switches so far If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle
Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE
Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive
No Worries 4X4

20th Feb 2011 8:30pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

Oh joy!

Guess I could think of it as an additional security device. If someone robs off with it they won't see where they're going, and because theres not much diesel in it they won't get far if they do... Every cloud eh!

20th Feb 2011 8:41pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8578

For such a young vehicle I would not expect the light stalk to have a problem. 10+ years yes

When we sell Lightforce lights as additional driving lights we recommend that they are NOT wired through the normal light stalk.

This means that they are NOT road legal in the UK however they do provide a completely seperate light system if your main lightstalk burns out

Brendan

20th Feb 2011 9:22pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I have a set of 240 XGT Lightforces and have used a tap off the main beam feed for the relay coil for the lights in series with an independant illuminated switch! The few milliamps required to pull on the relay won't have any adverse effects on the main beam stalk contacts and can be independently selected or deselected by means of the dash switch!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

20th Feb 2011 9:59pm

noworries4x4

Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: Newton Abbot Devon
Posts: 1195

Mine is standard Land Rover all the way but i have still had 2 light switches burt out (i do do a lot of escort work lights on in daylight 8hrs+) If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle
Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE
Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive
No Worries 4X4

20th Feb 2011 10:13pm

Toplink

Member Since: 05 Dec 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 159

We must all remember who makes the light stalk. Mr Lucas aka the Prince of darkness,I believe he patented the short circuit. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140

20th Feb 2011 10:50pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

LRA been out. Fuses, bulbs, switch, stalk, relay, etc all ok but still no dipped beam.

Back at the dealers again...

21st Feb 2011 11:38am

DefenderOfTheEarth

Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 1304

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

My lights (and Defender lights in general) are so poor on dipped, I sometimes wonder if they are also broken!!

Main beam is fairly decent.

Anyone retro fitted xenons to a Defender? Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.

21st Feb 2011 11:42am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

TBH fitting Xenons on a Defender raises quite a few questions, In the end I went for a LED solution thats e marked as well and lets say the results are great.

By no means a cheap solution but IMHO a proper solution

21st Feb 2011 11:48am

DefenderOfTheEarth

Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 1304

Ken - any details? LED lights are the way forward IMO.

My bike like has six XPG LEDs kicking out up to 1700 lumens - more than a car headlight on main beam!

Two of them (I tested two for a review) on my bike on the BM roof (BM lights in full beam):

Click image to enlarge Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.

21st Feb 2011 11:54am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

Try Tim at the mobile centre great guy knows his stuff

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21st Feb 2011 12:03pm

DefenderOfTheEarth

Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
Posts: 1304

Cheers! Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.

21st Feb 2011 12:44pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

There was a small writeup on those LED lights in last months LROi

Just been to pick up the hire car... Disco 4

21st Feb 2011 1:41pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

Turned out to be the relay after all!

Friggin' thing!

22nd Feb 2011 10:27pm

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