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| sasha2001 Member Since: 02 Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand+ russia Posts: 206   
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20000km, one new clutch at 17000km, use mainly off road really good and no driveline clunks etc at all
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8th Jan 2011 7:43pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2075  
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In the past we have had a series 2 109, Series 3 88, 110 300TDI & 110 TD5 The TDI was totaly reliable and never let us down in any way. but this one (TDCI Puma - Ed! ) is by far the best of the bunch so far.
I must confess that I do like the less tech engine of the TDI for looking after and MPG - but the power, low noise and speed (and heaters!!) makes the TDCI brill. 
It's a bit over 3 yrs old now having coverd c.60k miles, we got it at 18 mths old and have added most of the miles & since then its had one new EGR valve and a couple of little niggles (back door lock not locking, sticking rear sliding windows, and loose door seals) but has been driven to Venice and back over the swiss alps, used as a camper every month and covers a lot of motorway miles each month as well as lots of country roads in Cornwall. 
We've had landrovers so long now I cant imagine how people live with normal cars!! So the short answer is Yes (but am making sure that I can Touch wood!!)  Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  Last edited by wyvern on 9th Jan 2011 1:45pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Jan 2011 7:51pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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Everyone seems to think that the Puma is like a D4 or FFRR. The base vehicle is pretty much the same before. The engine is simple.... only thing is that you need electronic diagnostic which is remedied by Nanocom Evo, Hawkeye etc. A water pump is a water pump whether it is for a 300tdi or a TDCi.... if anything the TDCi parts would be cheaper because of the wider range of use. Glyn  |
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8th Jan 2011 9:28pm |
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| Arctic Member Since: 25 Aug 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 45 |
Cheers, that is a fair point. I have just been concerned about being faced with a lot of expensive problems after the 3 year warranty has expired. The more complex the vehicle, the more expensive of course. I fix my Series II myself, it is simple and reliable. Faults are easily found and very easily fixed.
I do see your point though. Maybe I shouldn't be so concerned. |
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8th Jan 2011 10:01pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2271  
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Very reliable. Just 3 clucthes and a twisted flywheel. Puma 110" SW
............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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8th Jan 2011 10:40pm |
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| Arctic Member Since: 25 Aug 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 45 |
Surely it would be cheaper for Land Rover to fix the problems rather than to live with them! Think of the Mercedes G-Wagen... 3 diff locks and up to circa. 500hp available on some models... haven't heard of clutch issues there. You'd expect Land Rover to be able to design a 122hp Defender to be reliable.
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8th Jan 2011 10:46pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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Mines a 2010 model, only problem - number plate light and a note under the bonnet stating "NO CLUTCH".
Not many KMs on it yet. |
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9th Jan 2011 8:44am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 
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ours has been ok,just the dealer that is crap 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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9th Jan 2011 9:25am |
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| cinstone Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Stourbridge Posts: 375  
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Which dealer was that?
Chris. |
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9th Jan 2011 11:44am |
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| pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
remember most people come looking on forums because they have a problem or niggle they need help with, so you tend to get a bit of a distorted picture.
Personally only had a couple of niggles with mine, certainly nothing that would stop me buying another. Pom |
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9th Jan 2011 11:50am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2603  
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Indeed. I know someone in SA who bought one of the first Pumas to land here in 2007 and he's had no trouble whatsoever with it  |
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9th Jan 2011 12:15pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2075
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Hi Arctic, I prefered the older engine just because it was less techinical to me, I am not a spanner type person and the sparky bits and the computer stuff is a tad off my remit for messing arround with ... (I'm a Nurse - so like to keep my hands clean if poss nowadays  !)
However as Glyn said - the machicine is a tool to be used and the engine is very common, so I guess that there will be things that need fixing and need to put my hand in my pocket (and get them grubby...  ) to keep it in good condition - but that is the same as any vehicle.
TDI engine swap - no thanks - I'll loose so much more than I'll gain ... the jump in power from the TDI to the TD 5 had a good wow factor and the jump from the TD5 to the TDCI more so (very much more so) so to go back and start from the basic TDI would be a bit of a big shock. I really love the big beast! I'll keep the new monster under the bonnet and learn about fixing it as I go. Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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9th Jan 2011 2:00pm |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 
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I picked up ours in November 2009 with 5K miles on the clock, from James French in Oxfordshire.
I've had no major issues, and I've put nearly 21K miles on it. Hope to keep it that way (touch wood). I enjoy every second of driving it, it is a wonderful vehicle. I use it mostly on paved roads; it's big role is ferrying us and our stuff back and forth between Oxfordshire and Eastern Europe. The main issue I did have with it was a dodgy rear halfshaft, which was was swapped out. In spite of this, the 110 has always been usable. Even with the dodgy half shaft we were able to make a 3000-mile round trip, it just made some extra clunking noises. Minor issues have been: leaky rear diff (replaced seal under warranty), exclusion seals on the doors falling off, a rusty rear step (replaced under warranty), squeaky driver & rear seats. It is going in for it's 24K service shortly, and the only big issue I have is that the clutch (spring and plastic pedal part) squeal/screech badly. The warmer it gets, the louder the noise gets. Lithium grease, WD-40 - I've tried them and they don't work for more than 30 minutes. |
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9th Jan 2011 2:19pm |
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| cinstone Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Stourbridge Posts: 375
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I've had niggles, many of which have been mentioned elsewhere on here, for example the EGR valve and leaking window seals, but what made it worse was the naff dealer, who just adds to the frustration much more than the original fault, like pointing out to them exactly where the windscreen seal was leaking, only to be told afterwards that they had resealed a door seal! I could see the water dripping from the bottom edge of the dash on the passenger side, 6" away from the door with no signs of water from the door to the bottom of the dash! How much more help finding and fixing a fault do they need!!!
Perhaps we should have a reliable/not reliable dealer thread? Mind you, it's not just Land Rover dealers that are, in my experience, naff. My old Rover dealer was decent for car sales, but naff for service. The same goes for a local Ford dealer. I ordered a spare wheel kit (wheel & jack etc.,) for my girlfriends KA middle of last June. I was told that it would take a week at the most and I would be called when it was in stock. A week went by and no call, so as I was in the area I popped in, yet still not in stock and the parts bloke would rather sit infront of his computer screen than serve customers. Over another week went by, but nothing. After around a month I gave up and to this day I have never had a call. Back to topic. In short, with my 90, the niggly faults have been made far worse by the inept service department at my local Land Rover dealer. 28k miles up and the clutch is still fine, fingers crossed as it's out of warranty in March. Chris. |
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9th Jan 2011 2:31pm |
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