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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
Could it be a dud/faulty flywheel pickup sensor?

Without knowing the inner workings of the ECU, I assume it won't start injecting fuel until it sees rotation.

And yes, I'm running out of ideas here!!
Post #515170 17th Mar 2016 12:47am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
The injector loom, it is plugged in ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #515272 17th Mar 2016 12:57pm
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Screbble



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miker wrote:
Could it be a dud/faulty flywheel pickup sensor?

Without knowing the inner workings of the ECU, I assume it won't start injecting fuel until it sees rotation.

And yes, I'm running out of ideas here!!


Me too Miker

We both need a nice brew made on an Ezy Stove Thumbs Up

GABERCRO do keep us updated as we are keen to help and intrigued to say the very least!
Post #515417 17th Mar 2016 7:58pm
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
Will do Neutral
Post #515503 17th Mar 2016 9:37pm
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achuakh



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Singapore 2002 Defender 90 Td5 SW Oslo Blue
The 10AS is the green box behind the instrument console.
On a standard off the line, it's always there even if the unit was ordered without alarm or CDL.

so what happens is that when everytime you turn on ignition, the ECU will poll the 10AS for a code it's expecting if the correct code is presented, it will start. This has nothing to do with the imobiliser activate or the red light flashing.

the time it sees a wrong code, the ECU will say, i'm not going to allow the car to start and sets itself into ECU immobilised. Now the 10AS doesn't know the ECU has done this hence the engine with lightning symbol doesn't come up on the instrument cluster, beside the 10AS was never programmed to do immob if the alarm was not specified.

So you need to query the status of the ECU from diagnostic to see if this has happened. If this has happened, you will need to make the ECU relearn the 10AS code.

again if this vehicle has alarm, it's had nothing to do with the fob sync. this is the communication between the ECU and 10AS. From the land of the most expensive land rover defenders on planet earth. At �125k for a XS 110 csw and you get to own it only for 10yrs! Please find me a good reason to stay on this island.
Post #515524 17th Mar 2016 10:06pm
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
Never heard of that before, but I'll check it out when I do the headers. Thanks. Will let you know what I find.
Post #515802 18th Mar 2016 6:42pm
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
Checked out the header joints and the 10S.. Joints are fine as is the 10AS which was checked on the NANOCOM which stated the ECU was "Not Disabled". Still waiting on pressure tester to arrive, so will up-date as soon as.
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ozzy57



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2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alveston Red
A known good cps fitted would rule that out.

Will the nanocom give any live data while it's turning over?

Is there any more details on it not starting, for example, it cut out while driving and wouldn't start again, or, it's been stood for a while etc. It wasn't me!
Post #516673 22nd Mar 2016 7:07am
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
Fuel pressure fine, 4 bar on inlet side.
Nanocon won't run while cranking. It shuts down to protect itself.
landy running for about an hour, everything fine. Switched off for 20 minutes. Would not start. Even with tow.
Losing the will to live Shocked
Post #517742 25th Mar 2016 7:24pm
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ozzy57



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2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alveston Red
Ok, that suggests the one way valve in the filter head has possibly failed, allowing air back through the system. It wasn't me!
Post #517761 25th Mar 2016 8:46pm
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ozzy57



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2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alveston Red

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 It wasn't me!
Post #517764 25th Mar 2016 8:48pm
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
thought about that, but not convinced. Will replace anyway. Have tested engine on turn over with flywheel sensor connected and disconnected. Got no reading either way from Nanocom. Also don't seem to have any current in the wires. Any ideas??
Post #518087 27th Mar 2016 12:36am
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GABERCRO



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 110 Td5 Tomb Raider LE Bonatti Grey
Been working away at my real job for a while. Still no further forward with the problem. Going to call in an auto electrician to help out.
Post #522923 11th Apr 2016 12:34am
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gazman



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alpine White
I was going to suggest towing as mine wouldn't start off the starter but it looks like you've tried that.

Do is the engine stop solenoid working if they have one. The reason I ask is I had a motorbike that did exactly the same and it had a tilt switch to stop the engine in a accident. It did exactly the same as what your description is but on a motorbike. 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
Post #523247 12th Apr 2016 7:37am
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
With having no contact via the ODB plug have you checked the earths from the ECM and the rest of the electrics in the drivers side seatbox?
Post #523250 12th Apr 2016 7:45am
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