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miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

TD5 Engine Repair/Replacement

My engine died yesterday. Driving as normal up a hill in 3rd. There was a thud, then there was nothing. All the oil escaped and the is a hole in the front of the timing case. Looks like the chain let go.

The engine was a recon, fitted in 2009. It has done 21000 miles since then.

Chances are there are many bad things that have gone on inside, so I am thinking it will be easier to replace than repair!! The car is a 1999, but due to the recon I am not sure yet if it has a 10P or 15P block. It definitely has the later head, as it has the FPR with a hose that goes to the front . However there is no EGR cooler.

Any advice on what I may run into if I replace with a 15P block? The engine wasn't running right, low on power and boosting late. The fact that it was boosting at all makes me think that the turbo is OK. The actuator may be seized but I can move it.

Basically I'm looking for any tips, tricks and advice as to what I may run into! I'm going to whip the rocker off the dead engine tomorrow night to see what the damage is. Unfortunately it is currently with a friend who very kindly came out to tow me, so I have limited access until another friend can trailer it home for me.

11th Jan 2016 1:16am

ozzy57

Member Since: 14 Feb 2014
Location: Farnborough
Posts: 221

If it spat ALL the oil out it may not have liked it at all.If it's just the chain broken then expect some or all of the following. Piston and valve contact probable, damage to head possible, debris in sump, bent rods, damage to bores. Only visible when you pull the head off.
Pull the rocker cover, you should be able to tell if the chain has parted company. If it has, head off, inspect and be prepared to scrap the lot.....

.....or you may be lucky. It wasn't me!

11th Jan 2016 2:39am

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

I wasn't lucky.

Whipped the rocker off. Chain snapped, chain guides in many small pieces, lots of scoring to inside of timing case.
Bits of valve stem snapped off. Followers not following any more, rollers escaped. Looks like armageddon in there! I'll throw some photos up later. New block for me!

And a conversation with the guys that recon'd it, 210k ago!

11th Jan 2016 8:25pm

Fatboy Slim

Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 1006

Bad luck chap. Considering the sheer amount of mucking about, if it was mine and I needed it on a daily basis I'd just chuck another engine in it.

11th Jan 2016 8:40pm

ozzy57

Member Since: 14 Feb 2014
Location: Farnborough
Posts: 221

Whereabouts was it reconditioned? It wasn't me!

11th Jan 2016 8:58pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10367

There's a td5 short engine in the for sale section.

11th Jan 2016 9:11pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

Turner Engineering. It was the second turner engine fitted too, the first one lasted 2k!!

That tazaa? Already been in touch!

11th Jan 2016 9:19pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 16979

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

^^^ That's disturbing! I thought Turner Engineering was meant to be pretty good.

11th Jan 2016 9:37pm

Fatboy Slim

Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 1006

They are in fairness. I suspect a bit of bad fortune in this case

11th Jan 2016 9:42pm

amondeggs

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Telford
Posts: 452

I replaced my 10 p engine with a 15p engine. In doing so I had to change the engine wiring loom and the lid from the air filter as the 15 p loom has a different sensor to the 10 p.
Also the injectors are different and you will need to have the new ones programmed to the ecu

Did mine on the drive lol

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11th Jan 2016 10:38pm

derbywill

Member Since: 25 Mar 2010
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 546

If fitting a 15p engine to a earlier vehicle I believe the ECU has to be reprogrammed as the 15p fuel pressures are different.
Maybe this is why you had a running problem before?

Kind Regards

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt

13th Jan 2016 2:12pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

That last post of mine should say 21k since the refurb, not 210k!

It could be one of the running problems, I've been talking to tazzukcb off here, and he's said the same.

It seems to have a 15p head based on the fpr. It has black top injectors. The engine number looks to have been removed. It has the earlier style egr pipe. I think it might have been supplied as a 15p short engine with the old 10p ancillaries fitted. Waiting on a build sheet or something from turners.

13th Jan 2016 2:21pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

Having spoken with Turners, they will not offer any warranty help due to the time, but it is a 15P short engine, with all the original 10P ancillaries refitted.

Balls.

Solution: Source a 10P engine, OR source a 15P engine and new injectors!!

13th Jan 2016 10:40pm

Fatboy Slim

Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 1006

You can pick a good 10P up for £400 to £600 complete. I'd be chucking another straight in its place. There was one for sale down here for £350 the other day but its a bit of a trek for you...

13th Jan 2016 10:45pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1760

If it's a known good runner I'd be tempted... Long way but the round trip would only cost me £50 in fuel in the other car!

Mike

13th Jan 2016 10:47pm

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