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Riyo



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Scotland 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black
Car wont start and dash lights come on and then go off.
Hi guys,

Im having a problem getting my 2012 puma tdci started today, it has been sitting on the lawn for around 4weeks since i last fired her up.

I fitted a blue sea relay last year and 2 Odyssey batteries and have not had any real issues with them since i put them in. Today i turned the ignition and the alarm went off, i could hear the starter clicking for a bit and cutting out and then the dash lights went off.

Tried spare key and getting the same result. Its weird now when i turn the ignition to the position just before ignition the dash lights come on for a second and then disappear.

Im hoping its maybe the batteries gone a little flat? but 4 weeks isnt a long time and there is 2 of them.

Any ideas? Many Thanks
Riyo
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DAZ110



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Probably flat battery.
Post #486212 28th Dec 2015 2:21pm
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Riyo



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Ok, i have took the two batteries out and put one on trickle charge, hopefully that will cure it. I dont have a multimeter handy so couldnt get a voltage off it.

I forgot to start the ignition and then remove the negative within 15secs, i just took the battery off - will this cause me any issues?

Also is there a special charger needed for the Odyssey sealed batteries?, i found one in the garage thats just a little black box with pos and neg wires coming off it and 2A on the front?.

Thanks!
Post #486233 28th Dec 2015 3:42pm
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custom90



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When you reconnect the batteries, sit inside and press the fob to lock 4 or five times until it does.
Then unlock it straight away again on the fob and try and start it.

Sounds like flat batteries, but also make sure the battery terminals are tight. Thumbs Up
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Cheshire110



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Yep flat battery sounds like, or loose earth cable on the battery. Cheers, David
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Post #486289 28th Dec 2015 6:39pm
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K9F



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With a 2 amp charge it will take at least 24 hours to fully charge the battery, maybe even longer dependent on the ampere hour rating of the battery itself. If it's a PC 1700 nearly a day and a half as it is rated at 68 a/h. Odyssey batteries can be charged at a rate of 50 amps if you have a charger big enough apparently. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Riyo



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Thanks for the tips, its been on charge overnight so i will give it a blast this afternoon.
Cheers,
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Screbble



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As previously mentioned, don't be caught out by the immobiliser! Thumbs Up

Hope all goes well.
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ARC99



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Riyo wrote:


I forgot to start the ignition and then remove the negative within 15secs, i just took the battery off - will this cause me any issues?

Thanks!


Good job I read this Embarassed A special way to take the battery off? The next thing the manufactures will do is make a battery a dealer workshop maintenance part and not something the owner can maintain. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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miker



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It's in the owners manual... It's not uncommon either, just a procedure to stop the alarm sounding... Rolling Eyes
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ARC99



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We blokes don't need manuals we already know how to do it. Laughing Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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Riyo



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cool beans, stuck the charged batteries back inm 3-4 flicks of the fob on and off to resync and started straight away. Guess il need to stop leaving her on the drive unattended for long periods of time.

Thanks for the help folks and Happy New Year!
Post #487261 31st Dec 2015 2:34pm
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DAZ110



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Thumbs Up Happy New Year! Thumbs Up
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blackwolf



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If you do need to leave it unused for significant periods why not leave an intelligent charger such as a Ctek connected? Keeps the battery in tip-top condition.
Post #487263 31st Dec 2015 2:44pm
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