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ashtrans
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Member Since: 08 Nov 2008
Location: Harpenden
Posts: 257

AndrewS wrote:
Confirmed today that my 110 Utility with heavy duty suspension has light duty 2 pin diffs. When I ordered the vehicle I was not given a choice between 2 or 4 pin diffs. Clearly the 2 pin is not strong enough for a loaded 110 thats used off road as a work vehicle. I am waiting for LR to advise me as to what they intend to do to fix the problem.

I also have a new 110 XS CSW waiting to be collected. I have asked the question 'So what diffs are in the new one then guess what they don't know I will take delivery of the new vehicle on the understanding that 4 pin diffs will be fitted if its found that 2 pins have been installed originally.

Hi,

all Puma 110 rear diffs are TBB000270, this is a 4 pin type, short casing like the P38 RR.

the front is a 2 pin TBB000250 but can be replaced with the 4 pin type TBB000280,

the 2 pin won't last long off road, wheel spinning kills them, not a power issue, they last better with traction control as this reduces the wheel spin, Dave

8th Nov 2008 10:48am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7990

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Dave,

where would you recommend getting the 4 pins from~? i dont suppose you stock them do you?

Slightly OT but no underdirve cables in yet? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

8th Nov 2008 11:48am

Laurie

Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Sussex, England
Posts: 2897

2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

Ashcroft

8th Nov 2008 12:19pm

The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red

My diffs are whining already (12k miles) and land rover said this is normal.

8th Nov 2008 12:38pm

ashtrans
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jst wrote:
Dave,

where would you recommend getting the 4 pins from~? i dont suppose you stock them do you?

Slightly OT but no underdirve cables in yet?

I don't have any of these diffs in stock at the moment but I will try to get some next week,

just waiting for a bit to be made for the underdrive, about 2 weeks, Dave

8th Nov 2008 1:59pm

ashtrans
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The Boy wrote:
My diffs are whining already (12k miles) and land rover said this is normal.

common yes, normal no,

I am told Landrover are having big diff noise problems on new builds as they have changed the heat treatment plant for the ring and pinions,

tell the dealer you want it fixed, they should not whine at all, the 2.4 90 diffs are the same as a series 2 disco and they didn't whine, don't be fobbed off, Dave

8th Nov 2008 2:04pm

The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
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Thanks Dave, thats the thing though I won't be fobbed off! Somuch so I have here a letter from land rover with a report on my vehicle. On one of the 6 major points I complain about he (the engineer form lr) said the diff whine is quite normal. I will scan it at work on Monday.

8th Nov 2008 3:00pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

The Boy wrote:
Thanks Dave, thats the thing though I won't be fobbed off! Somuch so I have here a letter from land rover with a report on my vehicle. On one of the 6 major points I complain about he (the engineer form lr) said the diff whine is quite normal. I will scan it at work on Monday.

The LR engineer is an idiot.

I have a slight drive line clonk (not a normal one) the engineer said its ok - maybe something but as my 90 hasnt covered enough mileage it could be ok could be serious. Net result LR think its fine.

Im concerned if the diffs are weaker i may not experience it for years. Mike

8th Nov 2008 3:12pm

Bosun

Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

I also have driveline clonk in my Puma, but I wouldn't call it slight. The Land Rover technical chap says this is also normal, even to the point of saying "it's characteristic of the marque sir". I'm still persuing the issue, but LR have thrown it back at the dealer saying my complaint/contract is with them. I can't help thinking that LR have a number of problems they don't want to fix!
Bosun

10th Nov 2008 7:36am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

Ill admit mine is slight - but i dont think (see all the issues i know there are with this) it will cure itself!!!!! Mike

10th Nov 2008 3:41pm

gtveloce65

Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 107

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Epsom Green

Just joined the forum - this is all very interesting (read: potentially worrying...).

I've also got drive-line clonk. More than slight, I'd say, but not sounding anything like terminal, so again, i assume the dealer will use the 'feature not a fault' line. The demonstrator that I drove back in March had the same issue, as did the TD5 that I bought instead - but that's another story...

Be interesting to hear from anyone who's succeeded in getting this accepted as a fault and rectified 1953 80
1965 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce Sprint
1980 Fiat 124 Spider
2008 110xs

11th Nov 2008 5:27pm

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