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Rommel



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Buying help needed TD5 Defender.
Hi All.

I am in the process of buying my 1st TD5 Defender after previously owning a number of 300 TDis Can anyone tell me what year and or Reg the 15P engine came in also what time did the VIN number 2A622424 start?

Thanks.

Tony.
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Late 2001 with the face lift dash ?
Mine is September 2001 and has the 15P fitted.

My chassis number starts 625....

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Post #450032 28th Aug 2015 12:16pm
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Is that engine better?
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rallysteve



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green
2A chassis number is 2002, 3A 2003 and so on.

As far as i know all facelift defenders (dash centre console) have the 15p engine. Easy to identify by the EGR cooler on the front of the cylinder head though.

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Rommel



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Johnnyboxer wrote:
Is that engine better?


This is what I read up on it.

Cylinder heads crack around the injectors on vehicles with engine number prefix 10P. A symptom is diesel in the sump; the oil level rises and the dipstick smells dieselly. The engine might run-on after switching off, which can be very serious. Engines with a number starting 15P don’t have problems, and vehicles with ’52 registrations or newer will be ok. Check the paperwork to see if early vehicles have been rectified.

The heads were originally positioned with plastic dowels, which meant the casting could move fractionally. This could disturb the head gasket seal, resulting in coolant loss and overheating. Steel dowels were used from VIN 2A622424. Check the service paperwork to see if earlier engines have been fixed.

A bolt retaining the oil pump sprocket can come loose – sprocket comes off, no oil, goodbye engine. Bolts should have been fitted with a thread-locking compound but often weren’t. If the job hasn’t been done, do it as preventive maintenance.


However how true this is, is a matter of conjecture as I have heard of later engines blowing head gaskets!!!


Thanks for the replies.


Tony.
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CDN38



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I have seen several of the plastic dowels that have come off the 10P engines and they have a serious bend. However when the head is replaced, the recommendation is to not use the steel dowel, any ideas why?
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HossBog



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Re: Buying help needed TD5 Defender.
Rommel wrote:
Hi All.

I am in the process of buying my 1st TD5 Defender after previously owning a number of 300 TDis Can anyone tell me what year and or Reg the 15P engine came in also what time did the VIN number 2A622424 start?

Thanks.

Tony.



Mine was registered on 20th Sept 01, is chassis 623xxx and has the 15p engine. So I'd assume any '51' plate or newer.. 2002MY Defender 90 H/T
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110MGD



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rallysteve wrote:
2A chassis number is 2002, 3A 2003 and so on.

As far as i know all facelift defenders (dash centre console) have the 15p engine. Easy to identify by the EGR cooler on the front of the cylinder head though.

Steve


If they have this does that mean it's a later engine?? 2001 Td5 CSW (weekend and snow mobile) Plenty of lights, M/T tyres EGR delete, roofrack, swing away wheel carrier, snorkel.
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Martin
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2002 model year onwards are 15P engines. Also new dash, new one piece rear door.

1999, 2000, 2001 model years are 10P

Remember is it MODEL year, not build year. The chassis number tells you the model year, not the 6 numbers at the end but the character at the start of the last 8 characters.

e.g.

SALLD.......1A523411 would be 2001 model year (10P)
SALLD.......2A625451 would be 2002 model year (15P)
SALLD.......3A744788 would be 2003 model year (15P)

(I have made up all the last 6 numbers BTW)  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Portofino Red
Had the 10p in my td5 disco 2. Brought it on 120k miles, sold it on 190k miles. No engine issues whatsoever.
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Re: Buying help needed TD5 Defender.
Rommel wrote:
Hi All.

I am in the process of buying my 1st TD5 Defender after previously owning a number of 300 TDis Can anyone tell me what year and or Reg the 15P engine came in also what time did the VIN number 2A622424 start?

Thanks.

Tony.


Just seen your location, if you want a second opinion on a vehicle, I'll happily give it a look over with you. It wasn't me!
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SailingTom



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rallysteve wrote:
2A chassis number is 2002, 3A 2003 and so on.

As far as i know all facelift defenders (dash centre console) have the 15p engine. Easy to identify by the EGR cooler on the front of the cylinder head though.

Steve


Mines a 51 plate td5 with the centre dash from new but is the 10p engine. It was a strange old spec of left overs though so your probably right in general
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