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PAT303

Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 125

1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Alpine White

LED headlights into SVX/X-Tech headlights

I'm going to fit LED headlights shortly,the phase 7 Trucklite model to my X-Tech but I'm not totally sure about the wiring as the headlights run a seperate high/low light set up.Do I need to rewire the loom to join both H/L together into the one light and if so can I fit a set of driving lights into the Halogen high beam light spot?.I'm after some idea's as to what is the best option on my vehicle. Thanks Pat

20th Sep 2013 8:10am

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

I have not come across the Truck lite headlights before, but they are tasty... and very cheap to buy in the US, circa $200 each...

http://betterautomotivelighting.files.word...698449.jpg

Wonder if they are E-marked...

20th Sep 2013 10:55am

PAT303

Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 125

They are designed for the Jeep wrangler and also fit the VW Beetle,the new model. Pat

20th Sep 2013 11:19am

nakatanenga

Member Since: 12 Nov 2010
Location: Neumarkt
Posts: 546

They are not E-marked and not suitable for RHD.
They have no positioning light, so they are not recommended for SVX and similar

And yes they are cheap but unfortunately cheap made as well, i had them in my hands. WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k

20th Sep 2013 12:03pm

geobloke

Member Since: 06 Nov 2012
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 4410

Well there you go then...

21st Sep 2013 2:37pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

They don't need to be e-marked for Australia do they ?

other than those, there are JW Speakers and Noldens

21st Sep 2013 7:26pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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21st Sep 2013 8:43pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

For Australia the lights would have to meet ADR (Australian Design Rules) requirements

Would E marks satisfy ADR? Have no idea, but am hazarding a guess and say probably yes.

Have had a quick look at the Truck Lite specifications for their light. What I noticed is that the Truck Lite website did not appear to give a figure for the light output. This I find odd as the most important information you require for a driving light is light output.

What they do state

Quote:

When properly mounted, exceeds FMVSS-108 and CMVSS-108 DOT requirements for low beam and high beam performance

Now reading US DOT rules does not exactly make exciting reading. However they do give a figure in candela as a minimum and maximum value.

Brendan

21st Sep 2013 8:44pm

PAT303

Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 125

bpman wrote:
They don't need to be e-marked for Australia do they ?

other than those, there are JW Speakers and Noldens

I don't know what E marked means,so no I don't think we have that in Oz. Pat

22nd Sep 2013 11:32am

PAT303

Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 125

leeds wrote:
For Australia the lights would have to meet ADR (Australian Design Rules) requirements

Would E marks satisfy ADR? Have no idea, but am hazarding a guess and say probably yes.

Have had a quick look at the Truck Lite specifications for their light. What I noticed is that the Truck Lite website did not appear to give a figure for the light output. This I find odd as the most important information you require for a driving light is light output.

What they do state

Quote:

When properly mounted, exceeds FMVSS-108 and CMVSS-108 DOT requirements for low beam and high beam performance
They can't be worse than the originals. Pat

Now reading US DOT rules does not exactly make exciting reading. However they do give a figure in candela as a minimum and maximum value.

Brendan

22nd Sep 2013 11:33am

TJ101

Member Since: 30 May 2007
Location: Taunton Somerset
Posts: 3752

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

nakatanenga wrote:

And yes they are cheap but unfortunately cheap made as well, i had them in my hands.

But even if they are expensive in price, don't mean you can rely on them being any better in quality

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22nd Sep 2013 12:06pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

nakatanenga wrote:
They are not E-marked and not suitable for RHD.
They have no positioning light, so they are not recommended for SVX and similar

And yes they are cheap but unfortunately cheap made as well, i had them in my hands.

They are E marked according to MudStuff's web site and £595.00 for a pair

"EU approved Truck-Lite 7in LED Headlamps" and have front position lamp so OK for SVX

http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/trucklite-phase-7-led-headlamps.html

3rd Oct 2013 7:50am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

We know and deal with both Peter at Nakatanenga and Kevin at Mud.

Mud have not had LED headlights on their website for some time now.

When Peter made his comment about Truck Lites not being E marked as a commercially available unit that was correct.

Mud have only very recently put LED headlights back on their website and I quote

Quote:

MUD-UK is pleased to announce it has the secured the very first batch of EU approved Truck-lite Phase 7 LED headlamps to hit the UK.

In fact these lights are probably extremely new as I can not find mention of them as E marked on the American or EU version of the Truck Lite website!

Maybe I should call in and have a cup of tea with Kevin as he is not a million miles away from us. I do know he has a few new products in the pipeline

Brendan

3rd Oct 2013 10:01am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

Me and my bad habit!

Thought I had been cured

Brendan

3rd Oct 2013 10:02am

SteveG

Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 671

Quote:
When Peter made his comment about Truck Lites not being E marked as a commercially available unit that was correct.

Seeing as the comment was only made on 20th September, I suspect it's more accurate to say that he assumed he was correct in stating that they are not emarked and not suitable for SVX etc.

There are a number of tests of these lights with speaker etc in the US. In almost all the tests the speaker units come out on top for light performance. However, I'm not sure they would recommend selecting them if there was a £/€350 difference as there is here in Europe if you buy a set.

As for quality, there is no question that Soeaker use top quality led's, however, as Tim has pointed out having the headlamp unit corrode within 12 months of use in a number of cases, does make you question again whether these are worth a 60% premium if bought in Europe.

3rd Oct 2013 10:21am

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