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bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana

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Just read an article in this month's LRM debating the use of 2 stroke. BM52

5th May 2013 8:41pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2163

So what did it say mate ?

5th May 2013 8:49pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

in essence...diesel is 'dry', pumps, injectors etc need lubrication and modern diesel does not do that, many reported pumps and injectors fail due to lack in lubrication and it is suggested this is due to 'dry' diesel. 2 stroke will lubricate, 1:200 ratio is recommended, author of article uses it but says make your own mind up.

I got the message he supported 2 stroke but could not commit in print.

I will continue using 2 stroke.

BM52

5th May 2013 9:13pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2163

I just bought 25L drum from a lube company on eBay . £73 free delivery and they thrown in a free 600 ml tin of brake cleaner .

5th May 2013 9:23pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2073

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

bm52 wrote:
...., 1:200 ratio is recommended,.....:

so my maths works out to -
1 - 200 so
1ml to 200mls,
10 mls to 2lts
100mls to 20ltrs,
200mls to 40ltrs,
400mls to 80ltrs
(110 tank full = 70 ltrs - Disco 2 tanks = 85ltrs ish) (edited due to forgetting which vehicle took longer to refill!)

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5th May 2013 9:38pm

keith

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 2163

I don't know of any 110 with an 85L tank , my 2.2 2012 is 70L

5th May 2013 9:50pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2073

keith wrote:
I don't know of any 110 with an 85L tank , my 2.2 2012 is 70L

ops ... my partners disco 2 has an 85 ltr tank ... mine is 70 as well !

I was thinking about the maths arround the most I've put into a landy tanks so had to miss something !

5th May 2013 9:54pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

top marks for use of the search function...

5th May 2013 9:57pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2073

Supacat wrote:
top marks for use of the search function...

5th May 2013 10:03pm

ralton

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Durban
Posts: 153

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver

just some feedback...
I've now been using 2SO at 1:200 in every tank for more than 2 years.
165 000km and it's running so nicely! www.ralton.co.za

6th May 2013 10:01am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11240

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey

Ralton, I've just clicked on your website link and you rhino picture is fantastic. My kids thought it was very cool too

Darren

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6th May 2013 10:20am

ralton

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Durban
Posts: 153

LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Ralton, I've just clicked on your website link and you rhino picture is fantastic. My kids thought it was very cool too

Shot!

www.ralton.co.za

6th May 2013 10:39am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

So is there anyone using two stroke oil in a DPF'd vehicle?

If so any issues; and are you using FB or FC?

7th May 2013 5:54am

First90

Member Since: 20 Mar 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 22

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Alpine White

On to my second tank with 2so added. All I can say is WOW!! what a difference. So smooth and quiet.

My 2010 90 was so noisy and clattery and from reading these threads I am guessing it was injector related. But since adding the 2 stroke it is exactly how I thought a modern diesel would sound and this apparent smoothness makes it much nicer to drive. It seems to rev higher more easily too but I am not sure if that is just because it sounds like I am not strangling a cat.

I am loving it!

18th May 2013 10:04am

o4dn

Member Since: 08 Jan 2010
Location: South West
Posts: 530

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

That's really odd. I had the exact opposite experience...

I tried adding 2SO to the tank at each fill up, for approx 1.5k miles. I have not seen any improvement in neither drivability nor smoothness, it was actually slightly worse wrt MPG...

I've now stopped adding anything to the tank and would not advise to add 2SO. But that just IMHO.

18th May 2013 10:46am

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