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| Phoenix90 Member Since: 04 Mar 2012 Location: Cornwall Posts: 377   
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You can upload them to the gallery on this site, click gallery up the top of the web page and follow instructions for setting one up
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5th May 2013 2:30pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2128 
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Now that you have started - you'll never finish!! 
its a bug to get the wagon the way you want it to be and it will be a 'work in progress' for the rest of time! we are on our 3rd defender over the last 20 yrs and are always 'tweaking' the set up to suit the 'next trip'! I've just bought some hi-lift jack mounts (thanks to BPman), some window security grills (thanks to Brendon) Jate rings, had a re-map (thanks Pete) and upgraded the sat nav to a Samsung note to run co-pilot and View Ranger this month alone (not to mention paying the road tax!!  )
Next will be cruise control ... 
all this in addition to the Dormobile kit in the wagon already ...! 
We're off to do some trips in the UK this month then looking at a longer trip to Rome and then to N Spain , so once the bug bites - you're hooked!
looking forward to seeing your photos (I post mine in my Gallery as Phoenix said.. easiest way) Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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5th May 2013 2:56pm |
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| 216lcg Member Since: 11 Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 50 
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Done. Only one for now. But will take some more and post. Thanks for all the help.
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5th May 2013 3:05pm |
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| Phoenix90 Member Since: 04 Mar 2012 Location: Cornwall Posts: 377
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Looking good - I really need to make a draw system for the back of mine at some point.
When are you off to Morocco? Are you going with a group or self organised? |
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5th May 2013 3:51pm |
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| Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169  
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May have been reading it wrong, but to me it sounds like you are carrying quite a lot of weight higher up in the load bay - ie, fridge on top of drawer plus 55l of water on top shelf. With the addition of the roof tent this sounds like you've got quite a high centre of gravity, which is not advisable. Are you putting really heavy things in the drawers to compensate for this?
Just a thought.... But otherwise Our blog - http://landytravels.com/
Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net |
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5th May 2013 4:35pm |
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| 216lcg Member Since: 11 Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 50
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Phoenix90, am going alone as part of a 3 month trip heading for Morocco to start but thereafter just playing it by ear. Am not quite sure where else I will go (if anywhere in N Africa) but thought Greece and some of the islands might be fun. Ditto with Italy. Am totally flexible so will see. The plan was to set off at the end of March but getting away for 3 months and cutting all ties with business is causing a problem. So there is a bit of a delay. Soon though I hope!
Pam W, thanks for the concerns . The tent is on roof bars to keep the weight down and there is only me in the vehicle but it is something I need to think about. The fridge is on the bottom shelf but it may be an idea to centre the tank to give a little better balance. I tried to consider everything I have done but there is always something. All observations however are most welcome. Thanks again, |
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5th May 2013 4:49pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2128
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There is a lovely slim line watertank that fits in behind the drivers seats in a 90 and holds about 50lts - it puts the weight down low - I'll try and find the link for you ...
our water is under the driving seat - so very low and out the way. As Pam said - not a good idea for to have the weight high on any vehicle and not for one that will be bouncing arround on the rough. - have you though about extra fuel ? Love the look of the boxes! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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5th May 2013 6:01pm |
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| 216lcg Member Since: 11 Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 50
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A link to that tank would be useful. I did start by looking at a pair of tanks either side above the wheels. But each side would only hold about 16l.I have a jerry can which holds 20l. This straps at the back, opposite the fridge. Am hoping that will be enough in any emergency. I also need to carry some fuel for my coleman stove. The space where I wanted to put those water tanks should do if I can find something suitable to carry it. Again, am not planning on carrying a lot of spare fuel. I might look tomorrow if my water tank will fit in the passenger footwell. As travelling alone it is space so far under utilised!
Am really pleased with the drawers. The surface of the base unit has been cut to house the channels for the fridge runners and the end section of the runner unbolt a to allow the fridge to be removed. |
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5th May 2013 6:23pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2128
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http://maverick4x4.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=55
enjoy!! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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5th May 2013 7:16pm |
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| SteveS Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: Devon & Berkshire Posts: 388 
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Just back from Morocco and have the following observations:
If you go alone and go offroad then remember it is a very big place and you could be miles from help - plenty of water, sat phone etc. Remember you will consume a lot more water in the desert than in the UK; I have a roof tent and ensured it was the ONLY weight up high - all Jerry cans, spare wheels etc were kept at lowest height and tried to be centred between axles. I had no weight more than 20" above the truck rear floor, water and diesel Jerry cans on the floor behind the front seats; I found my damper rates to be too low for the big undulations (Heavy Track RAID) and will set hem a bit firmer next time; Most of my weight is demountable - ie no fixed drawer systems - can make the truck lighter when you need to One of our group had a lot of punctures - inner tube failures - go tubeless if you can (probably are). Take two spares - personally I would have good quality new tyres all round - side walls get punished - BFG ATs or MTs were used for example; Consider that the mpg for desert travel will be much lower than normal - and distances between busy petrol stations greater (poor diesel in dodgy areas) Make sure you know how to change your fuel filter and have the tools to do so. Know how to drain water out of the system; Remove all unnecessary weight from your truck; Make sure you know how to self recover your truck offroad and have the tools to do it - e.g. MaxTrax |
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5th May 2013 10:43pm |
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| 216lcg Member Since: 11 Oct 2012 Location: London Posts: 50
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All sounds good advice. Have moved my jerry can to behind the front seats and centralised the water tank on the top shelf rather than on one side. My thoughts were that my shelves weigh less than the 2 rear seats i removed (these are surprisingly heavy). The bottom shelves contain camp equipment - stove, pans, plates etc plus some tools. The top, much smaller drawers will hold provisions- some basic food plus a change of clothes. The fridge is a small (27l) engel so does not weight too much and the Howling moon roof tent is on a pair of bars - again much lighter than a full rack.
Has anyone fitted a second spare wheel to the bonnet - bearing it mind it is a puma with the central bulge? Possibly this would impinge on forward vision. Thanks again, |
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6th May 2013 12:27pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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Pam's point re weight is a good one. You don't need a 55 litre water tank for Morocco even if you're a family of 4. You can buy bottled water in any village or town, it's not a problem. Having 55 kg extra is just asking for trouble especially if you don't have heavier duty springs. Too many 90's I see over there are sitting on their arses due to too much weight which then means knackered bushes, shocks etc and very poor handling. Better are foam cell shocks and good quality, heavy duty springs (but the springs are more important for morocco unless you're driving at racing speed and that seems unlikely). For example you can get a full set of iron man foam cell shocks and springs for 468 quid including vat and that is the best upgrade you can have for morocco.
Put your second spare inside behind the drivers/passenger seat. If there is only you there will be a ton of room anyway. Don't take too many clothes, you just won't need them. 2 pairs of trousers, 3 shirts, a fleece, warm and cold hats and underwear/socks, pair of boots, pair of flip flops, that's all you'll need. If you're on a guided tour then any tour leader worth their salt will have a sat phone, I wouldnt be going out and buying one. Take spare track rod ends and UJ's. If you're on a guided tour do not take max trax, hi lift jacks, sand ladders etc, you will not need them and it's all extra weight. Take a kinetic strap, a tow strap and 2 shackles of the correct rating. |
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6th May 2013 4:50pm |
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