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Comatra



Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
Location: Ordingen
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Belgium 
High-end Camera sytems for your Defender by Comatra
Hi guys!

OK, so we have introduced the TPMS systems here ; http://www.defender2.net/forum/post130499.html#130499

Up next, the camera systems, built extremely tough and were designed to be best in class, period.
To back that statement up, we fitted a kit, in 2010, on a Dakar rally truck to see what they could endure and they passed with flying colors.



We are very proud to say that our cameras are being installed as OEM equipment by several European vehicle manufacturers (going from tow-trucks to underground mining equipment, to side loader reach trucks)Mostly niche markets were other systems can't endure the rough conditions of everyday use. To see some of these examples please visit our website.

So if you might be looking for a kit, that will only set you back a few hundred bucks or quid, please stop reading here.. we can't help you. You should not have any difficulties finding something like that on Ebay. Are you looking for a kit that uses the best components available providing the biggest bang for your buck, then we can help you.

Cameras

The cameras are all IP69K and 30G vibration proof, and like most things in life it's in the details.
For example the brackets for the CMT77-HD cameras are stainless steel, with stainless steel screws, come with a rubber gasket that is very easy to install. The connectors (o-ring sealed) for the camera cables can be tightened down with a wrench unlike other connectors. Our cables are made from the good kind of rubber, not the hard plastic kind, cables are shielded etc etc...




The CMT45-HD is a camera designed to be as discrete as possible, no exposed wires, this can be mounted as a 'high mount' or inverted as shown on the pictures here below. You can mount the camera to best fit your needs ; for hitching, or just backing up.



Monitors

As far as monitors go we do carry a few options, but we suggest the 5.6'' size CMT5600D monitor, again these monitors are built to a higher standard and shows both in build quality as well as performance. For example the viewing angles of our monitors are extreme compared to others.

Also besides a T-slot style mounting we also have incorporated the AMPS hole pattern, so that you can fit your own RAM-mount or Panavise mounting solution. Using a suction cup mount for mobile applications, or dashboard mount, we have some mounting options on Defenders here below.
In cabin monitor suggestions :



Compatible with high-end GPS systems

Another option is if you have a high-end GPS unit, like Kenwood, Alpine, Pioneer, etc that has a AV-input, we have a special adaptor cable that allows you to connect our cameras to your existing GPS unit.

As long as we do not have an official partner in the UK, you can ask us for a qoute directly, a basic kit (CMT5600D monitor with CMT77-HD camera) retails for 592,00 Euros excl VAT and shipping and comes as a complete kit with 5 or 10m camera cable.

Complete overkill Wink :

Because the Defender 130 I am blessed with is sort of the poster child of our camera systems, I installed the 7 inch, quad and IP65 monitor (CMT704Q-HD) Please see below pics. And Yes, I am fully aware this setup is COMPLETE overkill nonetheless, I'm pretty happy Smile I'm thinking of buying a Garmin GPS unit that hooks up to my AV-in (also possible on the CMT5600 model) so that I don't have to clutter the interior all that much.


Questions? Please shoot!

ATB,

Carlos


Last edited by Comatra on 17th Mar 2012 1:45pm. Edited 1 time in total
Post #130525 11th Mar 2012 6:10pm
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SGH



Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
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Nice bit of kit Thumbs Up

I have a 130 and been waiting for Trailair to bring out its version to fit my 130. The only thing that puts me off is another screen in the cab where the Trailair use rear view mirror monitor.

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Post #130531 11th Mar 2012 6:22pm
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Zagato
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Putting the monitor behind the sun visor maybe an opton for those that want it just for reversing etc.

As you suggest I think it is better with all the gadgets with information to invest in a flip up screen from your music system and put your GPS, Sat-Nav, camera picture, vehicle mechanical gauge data etc all on one screen system if it is possible Thumbs Up
Post #130539 11th Mar 2012 6:40pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Carlos, I like the camera CMT45-HD. Good enough for me as I intend to use it as a reverse drive camera, so not really a problem that I do not see my tow hitch itself.
Interesting comment you make about high end GPS units possibly usable as monitor. My SVX has ex factory a Garmin Nüvi 750 installed on the dash. Is it possible to wire this so that I can see the picture of the reverse camera when backing up? That would be a fantastic solution if possible.
If the Nüvi 750 which goes back to 2008 cannot show this image, would it be possible with a more recent Nüvi model?
Ideally I want to avoid to put a second monitor/screen in the car, the current one is just a perfect installation.
Tks for a word, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #130544 11th Mar 2012 6:49pm
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Comatra



Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
Location: Ordingen
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Belgium 
@ SGH, thanks for the positive feedback Smile Putting an extra monitor in the cab is a somewhat of an issue, that's true. You could search the www for a rearview monitor mirror and hook up a camera of your choice, most of them will work with RCA connections. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&a...Categories
In regards to the Ipad, I honestly don't know if Apple has a adapter that accepts RCA(tulip) video-IN. Perhaps somebody else can jump in on this matter?

@Zagato, behind the sunvisor, nice one! Had not thought of that one! Smile Indeed, a nice All-in-one 1DIN system that slides out with a flip up display would be the way to go.

@Ericvv, the Garmin model I was referring to is the Garmin GVN53 that is only a GPS module-interface, I will use my own monitor that I have installed to display the GPS, instead of displaying the camera on my GPS Smile I don't think Garmin has a model that supports the AV-in feature. Sad It's a feature that is mostly found on the 'built-in' models.

It's nice to get a fresh pair of eyes - opinions on the matter, so keep your thoughts coming, it's much appreciated!

ATB,

Carlos
Post #130627 11th Mar 2012 10:00pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Carlos, about a camera built into the sunvisor... Take a look at the follwing thread and click the link to the thread in a German forum, then scroll down to 2 of the pictures somewhat lower in that post.....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic10220.html

Seems should be able to build a screen into the sun visor, nice and clean. If that would be possible for you guys to do, I would happily bring my car over to you guys this summer. Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #130672 12th Mar 2012 6:34am
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Comatra



Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
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@ ericvv, I had a look at the topic you sent me there, nice looking defender, it's a nice idea, Thumbs Up but I wonder if it would be 'pleasant' to look at with the monitor 'all up in your face'? Anyway, I'm sure we will find a solution that's suits your needs by the summer Wink Sunvisor monitor is not a problem.

Hi guys
Please see below link to Youtube, it shows a small demo of the camera+tpms system that we installed for a customer that transports luxury and classic cars. That's why at the end my 130 is sitting proud on top of the trailer Rolling with laughter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMVpkSigkY&hd=1

Thought I might also share a vid I made for Lorryman100 showing the trigger features wired up as it should Wink Please note the dashboard-thing was yet mounted back in place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTecHsAe01I&hd=1

ATB!
Post #131378 14th Mar 2012 8:57pm
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roamingman



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Can not see price, in this post.
can you help please. Smile Live Life Ti'l You Die
Teddys are out thier

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http://130sasha.co.uk/
Post #132108 17th Mar 2012 7:11pm
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Comatra



Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
Location: Ordingen
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Hi roamingman,

Thanks for your intrest, as mentioned in the starter post, the price for a basic kit : 5.6" digital monitor + Heavy Duty camera = 592.00 Euro excl. VAT(21%) shipping and handling.

Please bear in mind, our systems are developped to outperform any other system on the HEAVY DUTY - Industrial market. As stated on our website, we advise ; DARE TO COMPARE! Next time when browsing the web, try to compare the IP-protection grade (IP69K is the only one that is high-pressure cleaning resistant) the VIBRATION-rating, something very different than 'SHOCK'-rating, Image sensors (1/3 vs 1/4 or Sharp CCD vs Sony Super HAD CCD) etc etc

It's like buying a computer, both 'boxes' might look the same from the outside, but it's the guts that count!

Again, please don't hesitate to drop us a line, we take it personal and are here to assist you!

ATB

Carlos Camera monitor systems: www.comatra.eu
TPMS systems: www.tp2.eu
Post #132317 18th Mar 2012 3:58pm
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Surrey Rover



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Bringing back an old thread.

Is this company still operating? website is down and can't find anything but old links on the web. I am guessing not but wanted to check before I buy an alternative heavy duty camera.

Cheers

Nick Nick

2.2 110 Tipper
Post #219770 17th Mar 2013 9:23am
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Taquito



Member Since: 19 Jan 2012
Location: Limburg
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Belgium 2007 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Zermatt Silver
Alive and kickin!
Hi Nick

Thanks for your post/e-mail

Our website is currently down for maintenance (the server where our site is hosted was under attack, and had comprimised our website, displaying all sorts of adds for viagra etc)

We are still actively involved in the HD-camera monitor game, and are doing our best to get the website up and running ASAP.

Should you have any further questions, don't hesitate to drop us a line.

ATB

Carlos

(PS; update on my Defender 130... my baby has left, for the south of France, where she is being used the way it was intended, making the desert of marokko a little less safe Wink ) image below, courtesy of the new owner


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Post #219865 17th Mar 2013 2:10pm
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JWL



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I don't know how off the grid this idea may be but, as a lot of satnavs support these sd cards would it be possible to make up a plug to fit the sd slot and instead of the device(satnav etc) reading the information from the card, use it to feed say a reverse camera or the like. After all the card can provide a recorded video play so why not a live feed?
Post #219867 17th Mar 2013 2:26pm
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Taquito



Member Since: 19 Jan 2012
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Belgium 2007 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Zermatt Silver
@JWL

Not a bad idea at all, I had thought of using the SD card slot a while back, since they are selling the SD cards with WiFi built-in to upload your pictures directly from your camera, I thought it would be nice to use that to stream the image wirelessly. However all of this would increase cost a lot.
And because most the 'high-end' navi systems like Kenwood, Pioneer etc all have a dedicated rear-cam input we can use a connection cable to hook it up at a much lower cost than a wireless option, and without any interference.
You still can't beat the image feed fed through a double shielded data cable.

ATB

Carlos www.comatra.eu
Post #219886 17th Mar 2013 3:34pm
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