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mrwoo



Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Cheshire
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
5 seats in a Puma 90
I really love my 90CSW and I would do anything to keep it should a 3rd child appear. At the moment we are a family of 4 and we love going on holiday etc in my Landie, question is, what do I do when the wife tells me we're having #3 (apart from the chop Whistle )

I don’t want to trade it in for a 110 as I have always had 90's and spend 99% of the time in it on my own commuting 350 miles pw to/from work.

My inspiration - I think I may have had a good idea and wanted to know what other people thoughts were and what legal implications (if any) would be involved if I removed the current passenger seat and cubby box and replaced them with -

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trk...ouble+seat

If the link disappears do a search on eBay for Ford Transit double seats, there's loads of them! I like the idea as the centre seat already has a seat belt attached so I would only have to fix an anchor point for it. If it's legal in a transit then why not a Land Rover?

Any thoughts much appreciated Thumbs Up
Post #16774 16th Oct 2009 12:48pm
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DAZ110



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2010

United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
Buy a 110 with seven seats and then you could have a total of five kids and the Mrs to drive around! Shocked Wink

.....and when you get a Dog it can come too!

I had a 90 but it was to small for us four so I bought a 110. They are much more practical for family use.
They are not that bad once you get used to the length.

Daz110
Post #16775 16th Oct 2009 1:35pm
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chalky



Member Since: 09 May 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Mate I understand ur dilema and had to get rid of my lovely T plate cobar blue 90CSW 300Tdi when our first one appeared !
I bought a 110 and hated it !
With the arrival of the forward facing rears I ordered one and I too have no intention of getting shut of it,

We have a Border Terrier who occupys one rear my son occupys the other,
I've been flapping like a wind sock for some time now cos the Mrs has on more than one occasion mentioned doubling our monthly outgoings by bringing up the subject of another one !

Could u not adapt the rear into one long bench for 3 little ones ?

Just a thought ! DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN
Post #16776 16th Oct 2009 1:42pm
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mrwoo



Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Cheshire
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
chalky wrote:
Mate I understand ur dilema and had to get rid of my lovely T plate cobar blue 90CSW 300Tdi when our first one appeared !
I bought a 110 and hated it !
With the arrival of the forward facing rears I ordered one and I too have no intention of getting shut of it,

We have a Border Terrier who occupys one rear my son occupys the other,
I've been flapping like a wind sock for some time now cos the Mrs has on more than one occasion mentioned doubling our monthly outgoings by bringing up the subject of another one !

Could u not adapt the rear into one long bench for 3 little ones ?

Just a thought !


I have thought of putting a normal car rear type seat in the back, then using front seats out of a coupe car so they fold forward allowing kids to get in the back.

Ps already have a dog (german shepherd) she just squeezes is in between the back seats at the mo!
Post #16777 16th Oct 2009 2:24pm
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alantd



Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
It sounds like you're going to a lot of work just to avoid a 110.

I swapped over from a 90 to a 110 2 years ago and haven't looked back. Disadvantages are:
    Rubbish turning circle (although the 90 isn't that great)
    Load bay is shorter than the 90 (although you can put the seats down and then it is obviously a lot longer)
    Worse fuel consumption (not much different in reality and the 90 isn't amazing - although I know yours is)
    90 looks really cool
    90 is better off road
    A pain to park on retail parks with their ridiculously small spaces


Advantages are:
    Can get the family + dog + luggage in there
    More stable if you're pulling anything
    Much nicer ride (the SWB is very choppy in comparison with the LWB)
    Increased length of load bay if needed
    110 is better for touring
    110 looks really cool too
 One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition
Post #16778 16th Oct 2009 3:33pm
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diesel_jim



Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Get the chop now! it doesn't hurt too much... i had it a few years ago Whistle Whistle
Post #16782 16th Oct 2009 10:00pm
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scatt



Member Since: 24 Aug 2009
Location: nottingham
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England 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Alpine White
cant you fit the center seat in the front and put the eldest there? then there will 3 front and 2 rears
Post #16785 16th Oct 2009 10:58pm
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MrFlips



Member Since: 27 May 2009
Location: Cardiff
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Wales 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Santorini Black
Can you use the situation to justify the purchase of a Discovery 1? They're cheap enough, would hold five easily, and allow you to leave your 90 unmolested.
I was looking at my cubby box only yesterday, and thinking where on earth would somebody's right leg fit if that was a seat. Would a baby seat fit between the front seats to house the potential fifth, and buy you a year or two? Peter
2008 SWB Truck Cab
1952 80" Soft top
Post #16788 16th Oct 2009 11:30pm
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cradgebank



Member Since: 30 Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 308

England 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Start adding seats and you will run into big problems with your insurer's.
I think you will find there has been a recent change in Construction and Use regulations which prevents 2007 + Defenders from being fitted with front centre seat and rear side facing seats.

Cradge Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5
Post #16792 17th Oct 2009 5:21am
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
Yes I can confirm you can fit a child seat (above 9 months) at the middle seat. I removed the cushion material from the back support to get a little more space to change gear.
My little boy loved it.
I used the centre seat belt so it was legal and additional I used a rathed band to give it more stability.

From the moment my son was 1 year old he went with me off-roading and really loved sitting there having a good view what was going on.
When he got a little older I had to fidle between his legs to get the 90 in 4th gear.

When he was 3 and my dauther appeared. I changed from my beloved 90 V8 to a 1997 Camel discovery. It was almost as good off-road and had more space and luxury. I think my Camel was my most practical car till now. I didn't have the luxury and speed off my D3 G4 but it was more allround. In fact my Camel is replaced by two LR's my G4 for the miles, holidays and light off-roading and a 90 for the real off-roading. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #17189 25th Oct 2009 2:30pm
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