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Marius

Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 231

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Keswick Green

500 vs 50 ppm diesel

is 500 ppm diesel bad for the 2.4 puma?

4th May 2012 7:17am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2597

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Re: 500 vs 50 ppm diesel

Marius wrote:
is 500 ppm diesel bad for the 2.4 puma?

Marius, it can handle it. IIRC, it can handle up to 3000ppm.

But fill up with 50ppm as a rule, it's a much better diesel. I find the best consumption comes from Sasol and Shell

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4th May 2012 7:44am

Marius

Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 231

On my way to work there is an Engen and they only have one pump with 50, so I end up filling up 9/10 times with 500. Just wanted to know if will cause damage in the long run? My consumption with 500 Engen is about 11.5 l/100km.

4th May 2012 8:00am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2597

Marius wrote:
On my way to work there is an Engen and they only have one pump with 50, so I end up filling up 9/10 times with 500. Just wanted to know if will cause damage in the long run? My consumption with 500 Engen is about 11.5 l/100km.

It won't.

However, higher sulphur content means more sulphuric acid in the oil. Just change the oil every 10,000km to get rid of the sulphuric acid build up --
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4th May 2012 8:03am

robharvey

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Durban
Posts: 86

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Re: 500 vs 50 ppm diesel

Marius wrote:
is 500 ppm diesel bad for the 2.4 puma?

The main problem using 500ppm is that it stuffs up the DPF, which isn't installed on SA vehicles. But Naks is correct about the acid build up when using 500ppm. The service schedule states that if you use 500ppm then you should reduce oil changes to 10k. Fill up with 50ppm where you can.

4th May 2012 8:56am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2597

Re: 500 vs 50 ppm diesel

robharvey wrote:
The main problem using 500ppm is that it stuffs up the DPF, which isn't installed on SA vehicles.

the 2.2 Puma has a DPF, so be careful --
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4th May 2012 9:02am

robharvey

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Durban
Posts: 86

Re: 500 vs 50 ppm diesel

Naks wrote:
robharvey wrote:
The main problem using 500ppm is that it stuffs up the DPF, which isn't installed on SA vehicles.

the 2.2 Puma has a DPF, so be careful

Not in South Africa.

4th May 2012 9:04am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2597

Re: 500 vs 50 ppm diesel

robharvey wrote:
Naks wrote:
the 2.2 Puma has a DPF, so be careful

Not in South Africa.

Oh, didn't know this. Good to know

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4th May 2012 9:04am

Marius

Member Since: 21 Dec 2010
Location: South Africa
Posts: 231

ok......50ppm it will have to be then.

I live 4 km from work so I end up getting to 1 year before I get to 20k. Had my first years service at 12k so, should be ok with the acid buildup then.

4th May 2012 10:44am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2597

Marius wrote:
I live 4 km from work so I end up getting to 1 year before I get to 20k. Had my first years service at 12k so, should be ok with the acid buildup then.

Not that great to do such short distances every day. I would take it out on the open road at least once a week to give horns

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4th May 2012 11:00am

bwanashamba

Member Since: 03 Jan 2012
Location: tanzania
Posts: 14

2011 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Alpine White

here in Tanzania diesel fuel is all 5000ppm except BP which is 500ppm,where we are we cant get BP

The dealer insists that service is done every 5000km to stay in warrenty, so far no problems with the high sulpher fuel, on about 16000km now

4th May 2012 12:58pm

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